1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,389 [Music] 2 00:00:32,269 --> 00:00:03,970 foreign 3 00:00:36,709 --> 00:00:32,279 [Music] 4 00:00:38,950 --> 00:00:36,719 it was the morning of May 3rd 1975. Upon 5 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:38,960 returning from a routine flight from 6 00:00:44,810 --> 00:00:42,480 ziwatanejo to Mexico City 23 year old 7 00:00:48,170 --> 00:00:44,820 pilot Carlos De Santos prepared his 8 00:00:50,750 --> 00:00:48,180 Piper pa-2-4 plane and it was soon in 9 00:00:53,209 --> 00:00:50,760 the skies heading for the Benito Juarez 10 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:53,219 International Airport it was over the 11 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:56,399 VHF omnidirectional radio range when 12 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:58,800 Carlos noticed something odd in the 13 00:01:04,310 --> 00:01:01,199 distance as he approached the Oddity on 14 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:04,320 his left it soon came into view there in 15 00:01:10,010 --> 00:01:07,619 the skies was a craft gray in color and 16 00:01:12,289 --> 00:01:10,020 saucer shaped it was much smaller than 17 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:12,299 his plane as it began to follow his left 18 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:14,880 wing it had what appeared to be a 19 00:01:20,270 --> 00:01:17,460 cockpit of some sort on the top with a 20 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:20,280 blackened out window as Carlos stared in 21 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:22,740 awe at the craft he had a strange 22 00:01:27,230 --> 00:01:24,960 feeling that he was being watched from 23 00:01:29,630 --> 00:01:27,240 the other side of his plane he turned to 24 00:01:33,109 --> 00:01:29,640 look and on his right wing was yet 25 00:01:35,450 --> 00:01:33,119 another identical craft Carlos now felt 26 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:35,460 uneasy but before he could even process 27 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:37,920 what was happening a third craft 28 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:40,380 appeared directly in front of his plane 29 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:43,320 descending beneath the front reacting on 30 00:01:47,990 --> 00:01:45,720 impulse Carlos dipped the nose of the 31 00:01:51,649 --> 00:01:48,000 plane to observe where this craft had 32 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:51,659 gone to his surprise and dismay the 33 00:01:56,569 --> 00:01:53,759 craft was a little too close for comfort 34 00:01:59,270 --> 00:01:56,579 hitting and scraping the fuselage 35 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,280 damaging the landing gear of the plane 36 00:02:03,710 --> 00:02:01,200 it was at this point that Carlos no 37 00:02:05,929 --> 00:02:03,720 longer felt in control of his Piper 38 00:02:08,210 --> 00:02:05,939 plane no matter what he did to try to 39 00:02:10,669 --> 00:02:08,220 get a handle of the plane nothing was 40 00:02:13,369 --> 00:02:10,679 working surrounded by the three unknown 41 00:02:16,610 --> 00:02:13,379 objects he was sure that they were 42 00:02:19,010 --> 00:02:16,620 moving in to attack surprisingly however 43 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:19,020 Carlos felt as though they were guiding 44 00:02:23,089 --> 00:02:21,300 him he still felt threatened and 45 00:02:25,250 --> 00:02:23,099 attempted to bump the object to his 46 00:02:27,710 --> 00:02:25,260 right hoping this would somehow stop 47 00:02:30,110 --> 00:02:27,720 their control over his plane but it 48 00:02:32,930 --> 00:02:30,120 didn't they were still in complete 49 00:02:35,449 --> 00:02:32,940 control and now forcing the pipe plane 50 00:02:37,550 --> 00:02:35,459 to ascend to dangerous altitudes 51 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:37,560 helpless and Afraid of the rapid 52 00:02:42,589 --> 00:02:39,840 increase in cabin pressure literally 53 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:42,599 killing him Carlos did the only thing he 54 00:02:48,050 --> 00:02:45,300 could do he radioed for help connecting 55 00:02:51,229 --> 00:02:48,060 with a control tower in Mexico City he 56 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:51,239 sent a distress call yelling Mayday as 57 00:02:58,290 --> 00:02:53,700 loud and as frequent as he possibly 58 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:09,229 [Music] 59 00:03:13,430 --> 00:03:11,270 he went on to describe what was 60 00:03:16,309 --> 00:03:13,440 happening stating that quote I have 61 00:03:18,649 --> 00:03:16,319 three unidentified visual objects flying 62 00:03:21,530 --> 00:03:18,659 around me end quote he then went on to 63 00:03:23,809 --> 00:03:21,540 explain that quote I'm apparently Flying 64 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:23,819 Without control the plane is without 65 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:27,060 control I'm not controlling the plane 66 00:03:32,570 --> 00:03:29,760 end quote the control tower instructed 67 00:03:35,390 --> 00:03:32,580 him to decelerate and descend but Carlos 68 00:03:37,970 --> 00:03:35,400 explained that he couldn't he believed 69 00:03:40,369 --> 00:03:37,980 this was the end but just as he lost all 70 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:40,379 hope the objects seemed to distance 71 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:43,200 themselves and begin to head toward the 72 00:03:49,970 --> 00:03:47,099 nearby Mount popo katipeto volcano at 73 00:03:52,190 --> 00:03:49,980 unbelievable speeds the object soon 74 00:03:54,770 --> 00:03:52,200 disappeared out of sight and Carlos 75 00:03:56,690 --> 00:03:54,780 regained control of his aircraft he 76 00:03:59,390 --> 00:03:56,700 notified the control tower of such but 77 00:04:02,089 --> 00:03:59,400 the issue remained that his landing gear 78 00:04:05,030 --> 00:04:02,099 was damaged beyond control the airport 79 00:04:07,850 --> 00:04:05,040 issued an emergency landing clearing the 80 00:04:10,850 --> 00:04:07,860 area of all flights forced to circle the 81 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:10,860 airport almost a dozen times Carlos 82 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:12,959 desperately searched for something to 83 00:04:17,569 --> 00:04:15,120 fix the landing gear he was able to find 84 00:04:20,930 --> 00:04:17,579 a screwdriver and in a makeshift process 85 00:04:23,510 --> 00:04:20,940 was successful in extending the gear and 86 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:23,520 safely Landing the plane Carlos was 87 00:04:28,430 --> 00:04:25,740 treated at a local clinic and no 88 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:28,440 substances were found in his system he 89 00:04:32,749 --> 00:04:30,540 was given a clear bill of health and 90 00:04:35,930 --> 00:04:32,759 permission to continue flying thereafter 91 00:04:38,450 --> 00:04:35,940 any doubt that the event occurred were 92 00:04:40,490 --> 00:04:38,460 squashed when the radar operators at the 93 00:04:43,070 --> 00:04:40,500 control tower that day testified that 94 00:04:45,110 --> 00:04:43,080 they did indeed view the objects in real 95 00:04:47,450 --> 00:04:45,120 time as they were making the Maneuvers 96 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:47,460 that Carlos had been reporting according 97 00:04:52,550 --> 00:04:50,400 to UFO researcher Miguel Romero an 98 00:04:55,129 --> 00:04:52,560 affidavit was recorded in official 99 00:04:57,350 --> 00:04:55,139 minutes of the general directorate of 100 00:04:59,150 --> 00:04:57,360 civil Aeronautics by the officer of 101 00:05:01,610 --> 00:04:59,160 aeronautical Authority for the 102 00:05:03,950 --> 00:05:01,620 International Airport of Mexico City the 103 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:03,960 case-caught international attention and 104 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:05,759 soon news outlets wanted to speak to 105 00:05:10,249 --> 00:05:07,860 Carlos about what had happened the case 106 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:10,259 was also investigated by Project Blue 107 00:05:15,110 --> 00:05:12,960 Book under the guidance of Dr J Allen 108 00:05:17,870 --> 00:05:15,120 heineck the government hired astronomer 109 00:05:20,390 --> 00:05:17,880 who officially looked at UFO cases on 110 00:05:22,850 --> 00:05:20,400 several occasions Carlos was visited by 111 00:05:25,189 --> 00:05:22,860 what can only be described as Men In 112 00:05:27,230 --> 00:05:25,199 Black he was told not to speak of what 113 00:05:29,689 --> 00:05:27,240 had happened or he and his family could 114 00:05:31,610 --> 00:05:29,699 suffer consequences but he was adamant 115 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:31,620 about getting his story out to the 116 00:05:37,310 --> 00:05:34,800 public and even until this day continues 117 00:05:39,469 --> 00:05:37,320 to speak out about it Carlos went on to 118 00:05:42,170 --> 00:05:39,479 continue flying having a healthy and 119 00:05:44,770 --> 00:05:42,180 safe career thereafter but presumably 120 00:05:47,570 --> 00:05:44,780 that almost fateful day in 1975 121 00:05:49,730 --> 00:05:47,580 completely changed his outlook on what 122 00:05:52,790 --> 00:05:49,740 lay Somewhere In The Sky Is Over Mexico 123 00:05:55,490 --> 00:05:52,800 and just exactly how much control the 124 00:05:57,550 --> 00:05:55,500 trio of saucer-shaped craft seemed to 125 00:05:59,210 --> 00:05:57,560 have over his Piper plane 126 00:06:01,670 --> 00:05:59,220 [Music] 127 00:06:08,350 --> 00:06:01,680 foreign 128 00:06:10,850 --> 00:06:08,360 [Music] 129 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:10,860 UFO research there have been many 130 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:13,860 reports of crashed flying saucers and 131 00:06:19,550 --> 00:06:16,919 dead alien bodies being shipped off to 132 00:06:22,129 --> 00:06:19,560 destinations unknown and while many of 133 00:06:24,469 --> 00:06:22,139 these reports come from dubious and less 134 00:06:27,350 --> 00:06:24,479 than credible witnesses there are those 135 00:06:30,350 --> 00:06:27,360 rare occasions when the story rests on 136 00:06:33,290 --> 00:06:30,360 the shoulders of extremely prominent and 137 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:33,300 highly credible individuals such was the 138 00:06:39,170 --> 00:06:36,720 case for Clark B McClelland former 139 00:06:41,809 --> 00:06:39,180 spacecraft operator of the NASA space 140 00:06:44,689 --> 00:06:41,819 shuttle Fleet McClelland came forward to 141 00:06:47,990 --> 00:06:44,699 tell a fantastic story he heard from the 142 00:06:50,390 --> 00:06:48,000 late Lieutenant Colonel Ellison onazuka 143 00:06:53,450 --> 00:06:50,400 former Discovery astronaut who 144 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:53,460 tragically died in the 1986 Challenger 145 00:06:59,090 --> 00:06:56,400 Space Shuttle explosion during a routine 146 00:07:00,529 --> 00:06:59,100 prep Mission the two had connected and 147 00:07:02,629 --> 00:07:00,539 exchanged several conversations 148 00:07:04,909 --> 00:07:02,639 throughout their working relationship 149 00:07:07,670 --> 00:07:04,919 many astronauts had been aware that 150 00:07:10,189 --> 00:07:07,680 McClelland had an interest in UF foes 151 00:07:13,129 --> 00:07:10,199 having spoken on many occasions with 152 00:07:14,450 --> 00:07:13,139 major Donald Kehoe and Dick Hall two 153 00:07:16,610 --> 00:07:14,460 former members of the national 154 00:07:18,830 --> 00:07:16,620 investigations committee on aerial 155 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:18,840 phenomena during one of mcclellan's 156 00:07:23,930 --> 00:07:21,360 correspondence with onizuka he was quite 157 00:07:26,210 --> 00:07:23,940 surprised when onizuka asked him about 158 00:07:28,189 --> 00:07:26,220 his opinions on the possibility of an 159 00:07:31,010 --> 00:07:28,199 extraterrestrial intelligence having 160 00:07:33,770 --> 00:07:31,020 visited the planet McClellan once stated 161 00:07:36,589 --> 00:07:33,780 that he told onizuka that he believed 162 00:07:38,689 --> 00:07:36,599 that life does exist Among the Stars and 163 00:07:41,390 --> 00:07:38,699 that it has visited Earth throughout 164 00:07:44,270 --> 00:07:41,400 human history at this point onizuka 165 00:07:46,370 --> 00:07:44,280 smile and then pressed on he asked 166 00:07:48,589 --> 00:07:46,380 McClelland if his name had any type of 167 00:07:51,050 --> 00:07:48,599 connection to McClelland Air Force Base 168 00:07:52,969 --> 00:07:51,060 in California when he admitted that he 169 00:07:56,150 --> 00:07:52,979 wasn't aware of any connection he asked 170 00:07:58,670 --> 00:07:56,160 onazuka why he was so curious mclelland 171 00:08:00,890 --> 00:07:58,680 recalled the following about onazuka's 172 00:08:03,110 --> 00:08:00,900 response quote he had a surprising 173 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:03,120 experience along with other USAF 174 00:08:08,749 --> 00:08:06,120 Aerospace flight engineers and Pilots 175 00:08:11,210 --> 00:08:08,759 while on military training Duty and 176 00:08:13,189 --> 00:08:11,220 McClellan Air Force Base about eight or 177 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:13,199 nine years prior to his Astronaut 178 00:08:17,150 --> 00:08:15,300 training he and his group were at the 179 00:08:19,309 --> 00:08:17,160 base for specialized training when they 180 00:08:21,589 --> 00:08:19,319 were directed to report to a viewing 181 00:08:24,650 --> 00:08:21,599 room as they were seated the room 182 00:08:27,589 --> 00:08:24,660 darkened and a movie began without the 183 00:08:31,010 --> 00:08:27,599 usual official introduction by a USAF 184 00:08:33,290 --> 00:08:31,020 officer end quote at this point onizuka 185 00:08:35,089 --> 00:08:33,300 remembered being startled when the film 186 00:08:37,909 --> 00:08:35,099 began to show what appeared to be some 187 00:08:40,190 --> 00:08:37,919 sort of medical examination room with 188 00:08:43,070 --> 00:08:40,200 small bodies laying on some sort of 189 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:43,080 table the bodies according to onazuka 190 00:08:48,170 --> 00:08:45,600 were quote small strange looking 191 00:08:50,090 --> 00:08:48,180 creatures they were humanoid and 192 00:08:52,070 --> 00:08:50,100 appeared similar to those described by 193 00:08:56,090 --> 00:08:52,080 alleged Witnesses at the well-known 194 00:09:00,230 --> 00:08:56,100 Roswell site in 1947. they all had large 195 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:00,240 heads large eyes slight torsos arms and 196 00:09:06,350 --> 00:09:03,120 legs they did not appear to be of 197 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:06,360 Earthly origin but why were onizuka and 198 00:09:11,329 --> 00:09:09,360 other show own this film to what purpose 199 00:09:13,750 --> 00:09:11,339 was it to Usher them in sit them down 200 00:09:16,070 --> 00:09:13,760 and not explain what they were saying 201 00:09:18,530 --> 00:09:16,080 onazuka explained his theories on this 202 00:09:21,170 --> 00:09:18,540 to McClelland stating that quote we were 203 00:09:23,269 --> 00:09:21,180 all caught off guard perhaps it was a 204 00:09:26,389 --> 00:09:23,279 test of our psyche to determine our 205 00:09:29,509 --> 00:09:26,399 overall reaction well we were all caught 206 00:09:30,949 --> 00:09:29,519 by surprise end quote this certainly 207 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:30,959 would have been enough reason to 208 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:33,480 question what it was they were seeing so 209 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:35,760 had they been given the opportunity to 210 00:09:40,490 --> 00:09:38,220 inquire onizuka went on to explain that 211 00:09:42,590 --> 00:09:40,500 they were not even given a moment to 212 00:09:44,570 --> 00:09:42,600 question their superiors he would go on 213 00:09:46,790 --> 00:09:44,580 to say that quote we were then asked to 214 00:09:49,370 --> 00:09:46,800 exit the room and continued our 215 00:09:52,850 --> 00:09:49,380 scheduled technical activities as if 216 00:09:55,850 --> 00:09:52,860 nothing special had occurred end quote 217 00:09:59,150 --> 00:09:55,860 so they said clearly been a cryptic and 218 00:10:02,090 --> 00:09:59,160 bizarre experience prompted by onazuka 219 00:10:03,290 --> 00:10:02,100 superiors and various agencies so while 220 00:10:06,110 --> 00:10:03,300 it may have been a test on the 221 00:10:08,449 --> 00:10:06,120 collective and individual psyche of the 222 00:10:11,690 --> 00:10:08,459 viewers at the time what was the overall 223 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:11,700 intent in the opinion of onazuka he 224 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:13,860 postulated the following to McClelland 225 00:10:19,449 --> 00:10:16,560 quote perhaps it was a planned USAF 226 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:19,459 psychological test for military reasons 227 00:10:26,030 --> 00:10:22,560 NASA may have been evaluating it in my 228 00:10:28,250 --> 00:10:26,040 selection as an astronaut in 1978 you 229 00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:28,260 know what would my reaction be if I 230 00:10:33,769 --> 00:10:31,620 actually saw an alien being end quote it 231 00:10:35,690 --> 00:10:33,779 was at this point that McClellan claims 232 00:10:38,269 --> 00:10:35,700 that the two went their separate ways 233 00:10:40,790 --> 00:10:38,279 but not before agreeing to meet again to 234 00:10:43,250 --> 00:10:40,800 discuss the extraordinary story in more 235 00:10:45,290 --> 00:10:43,260 detail McClelland wished onizuka the 236 00:10:47,810 --> 00:10:45,300 best of luck in his upcoming Challenger 237 00:10:50,269 --> 00:10:47,820 space flight Mission unbeknownst to both 238 00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:50,279 men that day it would be the last time 239 00:10:56,630 --> 00:10:52,320 they ever spoke 240 00:10:58,730 --> 00:10:56,640 on January 8 1986 onizuka and the other 241 00:11:01,790 --> 00:10:58,740 members of the Challenger crew lost 242 00:11:03,290 --> 00:11:01,800 their lives in the tragic accident that 243 00:11:05,810 --> 00:11:03,300 shook the nation 244 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:05,820 McClelland was at Kennedy Space Center 245 00:11:10,910 --> 00:11:08,220 that day when the Challenger exploded 246 00:11:13,490 --> 00:11:10,920 and fell into the Atlantic Ocean 247 00:11:16,250 --> 00:11:13,500 with it the incredible accomplishments 248 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:16,260 of the crew lived on in the memories of 249 00:11:21,350 --> 00:11:19,440 many and for onazuka in particular he 250 00:11:23,569 --> 00:11:21,360 was remembered by most for being the 251 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:23,579 first Asian American the first Japanese 252 00:11:29,810 --> 00:11:27,120 American and the First Hawaiian in space 253 00:11:32,810 --> 00:11:29,820 as an astronaut on the Space Shuttle 254 00:11:36,769 --> 00:11:32,820 Discovery but for McClelland his memory 255 00:11:39,650 --> 00:11:36,779 of onazuka included The Amazing Story of 256 00:11:42,410 --> 00:11:39,660 possible alien beings and the strange 257 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:42,420 film he'd witnessed ushering in yet 258 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:45,300 another controversial Tale in the annals 259 00:11:52,980 --> 00:11:57,710 foreign 260 00:12:03,310 --> 00:12:00,829 Army Reserve uh-1 helicopter cut through 261 00:12:07,069 --> 00:12:03,320 the night sky on October 18 262 00:12:09,710 --> 00:12:07,079 1973. the four-man crew Captain Lawrence 263 00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:09,720 Coyne Lieutenant Arrigo Jesse Sergeant 264 00:12:14,449 --> 00:12:12,720 John Healy and Robert yanasek had 265 00:12:16,610 --> 00:12:14,459 traveled from Cleveland to Columbus 266 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:16,620 earlier that evening for a regular 267 00:12:21,350 --> 00:12:19,200 standard medical examination 268 00:12:24,110 --> 00:12:21,360 following that they would board their 269 00:12:26,509 --> 00:12:24,120 vehicle at 10 30 pm and leave for their 270 00:12:28,490 --> 00:12:26,519 return Journey back to Cleveland 271 00:12:32,269 --> 00:12:28,500 it was while they were over Mansfield 272 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:32,279 that the Knight took a strange turn 273 00:12:37,310 --> 00:12:35,160 they were flying at 2500 feet the 274 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:37,320 mixture of woods Hills and farmland 275 00:12:42,110 --> 00:12:39,839 below them it was Healy who first 276 00:12:42,889 --> 00:12:42,120 spotted the strange red light to their 277 00:12:44,990 --> 00:12:42,899 left 278 00:12:46,850 --> 00:12:45,000 it was at some distance but it looked 279 00:12:48,949 --> 00:12:46,860 too bright to be a standard aircraft 280 00:12:52,009 --> 00:12:48,959 light he would keep the sighting to 281 00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:52,019 himself but keep his eye on it several 282 00:12:57,230 --> 00:12:54,360 moments later janicek noticed the red 283 00:13:00,350 --> 00:12:57,240 light also when it began to close in on 284 00:13:02,389 --> 00:13:00,360 their craft he informed Captain Cohen 285 00:13:05,090 --> 00:13:02,399 believing themselves to be on a 286 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:05,100 collision course with this object coin 287 00:13:09,889 --> 00:13:07,740 thrust the helicopter down descending 288 00:13:12,110 --> 00:13:09,899 around 500 feet 289 00:13:14,329 --> 00:13:12,120 as he did so he would request 290 00:13:15,530 --> 00:13:14,339 information from the control tower in 291 00:13:17,210 --> 00:13:15,540 Mansfield 292 00:13:19,009 --> 00:13:17,220 a few seconds after initial radio 293 00:13:21,710 --> 00:13:19,019 contact with the tower their 294 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:21,720 Communications began to be interrupted 295 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:24,420 the red object was still heading in 296 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:26,100 their Direction I looked out the window 297 00:13:30,949 --> 00:13:28,500 and observed this light moving at a very 298 00:13:33,050 --> 00:13:30,959 excessive speed in excess of 600 knots 299 00:13:35,569 --> 00:13:33,060 coming at the helicopter it looked like 300 00:13:38,569 --> 00:13:35,579 a locked on Missile the men prepared for 301 00:13:41,870 --> 00:13:38,579 impact just as the object was about to 302 00:13:44,629 --> 00:13:41,880 crash into the helicopter it came to a 303 00:13:46,490 --> 00:13:44,639 complete stop directly in front and 304 00:13:48,170 --> 00:13:46,500 slightly above them the thing that makes 305 00:13:49,850 --> 00:13:48,180 this particular evening a unique 306 00:13:52,310 --> 00:13:49,860 experience was that it was almost 307 00:13:55,069 --> 00:13:52,320 emitter collision with an object that we 308 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:55,079 or you know as a UFO we did not know 309 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:57,120 where such and told it was on top the 310 00:14:01,610 --> 00:13:58,800 helicopter and that took just a matter 311 00:14:04,250 --> 00:14:01,620 of minutes the metallic cigar-shaped 312 00:14:06,590 --> 00:14:04,260 object hung in the air filling the 313 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:06,600 entire windshield the crew would 314 00:14:11,150 --> 00:14:08,399 estimate the object to be around 60 feet 315 00:14:14,230 --> 00:14:11,160 in length and around 20 feet high all 316 00:14:16,449 --> 00:14:14,240 four men looked down in awe of this huge 317 00:14:19,370 --> 00:14:16,459 otherworldly crap 318 00:14:21,949 --> 00:14:19,380 suddenly a green light swung from 319 00:14:25,310 --> 00:14:21,959 underneath and hit the windshield of the 320 00:14:27,590 --> 00:14:25,320 helicopter according to coin the whole 321 00:14:29,569 --> 00:14:27,600 cabin turned green as the light 322 00:14:32,569 --> 00:14:29,579 illuminated everything in a bright green 323 00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:32,579 wash after a few seconds the light went 324 00:14:37,250 --> 00:14:35,040 out and the object moved up and to the 325 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,260 West at great speed 326 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:39,360 coin who had the helicopter's height 327 00:14:44,329 --> 00:14:41,100 locked throughout the incident at about 328 00:14:47,930 --> 00:14:44,339 1700 feet realized they were Suddenly at 329 00:14:50,930 --> 00:14:47,940 a height of 3 500 feet they had climbed 330 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:50,940 almost 2 000 feet in a matter of seconds 331 00:14:56,509 --> 00:14:53,360 and never even knew it 332 00:14:59,629 --> 00:14:56,519 suddenly a bump nudged the helicopter 333 00:15:03,230 --> 00:14:59,639 and instinctively coin climbed slightly 334 00:15:05,870 --> 00:15:03,240 the vehicle now back in his control the 335 00:15:07,550 --> 00:15:05,880 crew still shaken continued on to 336 00:15:10,009 --> 00:15:07,560 Cleveland where they would make an 337 00:15:12,710 --> 00:15:10,019 official report of the incident 338 00:15:15,530 --> 00:15:12,720 however unlike many encounters involving 339 00:15:18,290 --> 00:15:15,540 aircraft Pilots military or commercial 340 00:15:20,449 --> 00:15:18,300 coin would give his report to the media 341 00:15:24,350 --> 00:15:20,459 upon Landing the object that I viewed 342 00:15:29,689 --> 00:15:27,470 degree of Technology was composed of a 343 00:15:32,090 --> 00:15:29,699 structure and a design that we do not 344 00:15:33,650 --> 00:15:32,100 have the object can move through the 345 00:15:36,769 --> 00:15:33,660 atmosphere without causing any 346 00:15:39,769 --> 00:15:36,779 turbulence it can move at high speeds 347 00:15:41,629 --> 00:15:39,779 below 10 000 feet there are no vertical 348 00:15:43,550 --> 00:15:41,639 or horizontal stabilizers you know 349 00:15:47,210 --> 00:15:43,560 landing gear no source of propulsion 350 00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:47,220 reflected on the craft looks like it it 351 00:15:52,370 --> 00:15:49,800 could go to fly in space a local 352 00:15:54,949 --> 00:15:52,380 Cleveland reporter ran the story the 353 00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:54,959 following day shortly after coin 354 00:15:59,210 --> 00:15:57,360 appeared on the Dick Cavett Show and 355 00:16:02,210 --> 00:15:59,220 told of the encounter to a national 356 00:16:04,970 --> 00:16:02,220 audience it's because of his actions 357 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:04,980 that the account is largely seen as 358 00:16:10,730 --> 00:16:08,399 credible it also give the military no 359 00:16:13,090 --> 00:16:10,740 chance to cover up or ridicule the 360 00:16:16,189 --> 00:16:13,100 incident and even if they had tried 361 00:16:19,069 --> 00:16:16,199 several people below also witnessed the 362 00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:19,079 bizarre events unfold 363 00:16:22,790 --> 00:16:20,760 there were several witnesses on the 364 00:16:25,610 --> 00:16:22,800 ground who would corroborate the Pilot's 365 00:16:27,829 --> 00:16:25,620 accounts one of them was Jim Carver and 366 00:16:30,710 --> 00:16:27,839 his family who were driving to the rural 367 00:16:32,810 --> 00:16:30,720 home just outside of Mansfield along 368 00:16:35,569 --> 00:16:32,820 with Jim were his three siblings and his 369 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:35,579 mother Emma it was shortly after 11 pm 370 00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:38,160 when they noticed a strange red light in 371 00:16:43,490 --> 00:16:40,259 the sky above them it appeared to be 372 00:16:46,730 --> 00:16:43,500 getting closer Emma turned the car onto 373 00:16:48,769 --> 00:16:46,740 Route 430 as she did so both she and her 374 00:16:52,490 --> 00:16:48,779 four children could now see two lights 375 00:16:54,110 --> 00:16:52,500 above one was read the other green as 376 00:16:55,490 --> 00:16:54,120 each of them watched the lights in 377 00:16:57,710 --> 00:16:55,500 fascination 378 00:17:00,410 --> 00:16:57,720 they noticed the sound of an approaching 379 00:17:02,210 --> 00:17:00,420 helicopter Emma pulled the car to the 380 00:17:04,189 --> 00:17:02,220 side of the road and she and her 381 00:17:05,090 --> 00:17:04,199 children stepped out to watch the events 382 00:17:07,490 --> 00:17:05,100 above 383 00:17:09,850 --> 00:17:07,500 they could see the huge cigar-shaped 384 00:17:12,289 --> 00:17:09,860 object hovering over the helicopter 385 00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:12,299 suddenly they witnessed the bright green 386 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:14,640 light shoot from the underside and 387 00:17:19,850 --> 00:17:17,220 bathed not only the entire cockpit in 388 00:17:20,809 --> 00:17:19,860 fluorescent green but everything in 389 00:17:23,449 --> 00:17:20,819 sight 390 00:17:26,150 --> 00:17:23,459 as the crew reported after a few seconds 391 00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:26,160 the light went out and the object moved 392 00:17:32,090 --> 00:17:28,500 away casting a brief flash of bright 393 00:17:34,430 --> 00:17:32,100 white light as it did incidentally there 394 00:17:39,110 --> 00:17:34,440 was a spike in UFO sightings throughout 395 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:39,120 the US in October of 1973. in 1988 396 00:17:46,430 --> 00:17:42,720 almost 15 years later a new witness came 397 00:17:48,789 --> 00:17:46,440 forward with more information Gian Elias 398 00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:48,799 from the southeast Mansfield area 399 00:17:54,289 --> 00:17:51,539 recalled laying in bed watching the 11 400 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:54,299 pm news when the sound of an extremely 401 00:17:59,330 --> 00:17:56,880 low-flying helicopter made her stop 402 00:18:01,669 --> 00:17:59,340 watching the TV she was used to 403 00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:01,679 low-flying aircraft as their house was 404 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:03,480 only six miles from the Mansfield 405 00:18:09,470 --> 00:18:06,720 Airport runway however this aircraft 406 00:18:13,490 --> 00:18:09,480 sounded lower than normal and she feared 407 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,500 an imminent crash as she panicked she 408 00:18:18,110 --> 00:18:15,600 hit her head under the pillow on her bed 409 00:18:20,529 --> 00:18:18,120 she could hear her teenage son John 410 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:20,539 calling to her from his room next door 411 00:18:25,549 --> 00:18:23,460 the loud rumbling sound had awoken him 412 00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:25,559 and a bright green light filled his 413 00:18:29,930 --> 00:18:27,660 entire room from outside 414 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:29,940 following an appeal in the Mansfield 415 00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:33,600 News Journal in 2015 for witnesses to 416 00:18:38,870 --> 00:18:36,059 the Mansfield incident many people did 417 00:18:41,210 --> 00:18:38,880 come forward with new information one 418 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:41,220 was Brian Stevens who at the time of the 419 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:43,679 incident was 13 years old he would 420 00:18:48,289 --> 00:18:46,140 recall seeing a red orange ball that he 421 00:18:52,010 --> 00:18:48,299 couldn't take his eyes off of as he 422 00:18:55,970 --> 00:18:52,020 walked along Ohio 39 another new witness 423 00:18:57,830 --> 00:18:55,980 Glenn Stout worked at Mansfield Tire he 424 00:18:59,930 --> 00:18:57,840 and several co-workers were on a break 425 00:19:02,690 --> 00:18:59,940 at the back dock when a crazy looking 426 00:19:06,110 --> 00:19:02,700 light sped towards a helicopter nearly 427 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:06,120 crashy one particularly bizarre detail 428 00:19:10,130 --> 00:19:08,460 offered by Stout was his home electric 429 00:19:13,190 --> 00:19:10,140 bill for the month following the 430 00:19:15,409 --> 00:19:13,200 incident was only four dollars he 431 00:19:17,930 --> 00:19:15,419 wondered if this surprisingly low Bill 432 00:19:21,169 --> 00:19:17,940 had a connection to the UFO overhead 433 00:19:23,450 --> 00:19:21,179 that evening bring on all the UFO 434 00:19:26,169 --> 00:19:23,460 encounters here in New York City please 435 00:19:28,909 --> 00:19:26,179 my electric feels insane 436 00:19:31,150 --> 00:19:28,919 Judith ham was yet another person who 437 00:19:33,289 --> 00:19:31,160 witnessed the bizarre events in 438 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:33,299 1973. she claimed to have almost 439 00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:35,340 screamed out loud as she witnessed what 440 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:37,380 she thought was two planes about to 441 00:19:42,049 --> 00:19:39,840 crash ham believed it was a military 442 00:19:43,549 --> 00:19:42,059 plane until reading stories of the 443 00:19:46,430 --> 00:19:43,559 encounter afterward 444 00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:46,440 but let's return to where this all began 445 00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:48,660 with Captain Cohen and the rest of the 446 00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:51,840 helicopter crew just what was it that 447 00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:53,880 was seen that evening in the Skies over 448 00:19:59,150 --> 00:19:57,360 Mansfield Ohio may never be known while 449 00:20:01,430 --> 00:19:59,160 it isn't beyond the realm of possibility 450 00:20:04,789 --> 00:20:01,440 that the military has more information 451 00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:04,799 about the case the fact that coin bypass 452 00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:07,740 potential sensor heavy channels by 453 00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:09,500 speaking directly with the media 454 00:20:15,850 --> 00:20:13,919 suggests the incident is mostly intact 455 00:20:17,870 --> 00:20:15,860 whether or not there was some 456 00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:17,880 clandestine military involvement 457 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:20,160 somewhere in the timeline of the episode 458 00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:23,580 is open to debate and just like many 459 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:26,580 other UFO cases it also remains 460 00:20:30,590 --> 00:20:28,799 unexplained 461 00:20:32,270 --> 00:20:30,600 I would like to stress one important 462 00:20:35,210 --> 00:20:32,280 fact 463 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:35,220 and that is there is approximately 20 464 00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:37,500 years of Army Aviation experience 465 00:20:42,350 --> 00:20:40,140 between the four men on board the 466 00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:42,360 helicopter that night 467 00:20:46,909 --> 00:20:43,980 we have been trained to follow 468 00:20:48,110 --> 00:20:46,919 procedures and regulations in reporting 469 00:20:51,049 --> 00:20:48,120 incidents 470 00:20:54,169 --> 00:20:51,059 regardless of how they're accepted 471 00:20:56,690 --> 00:20:54,179 and we try to follow those procedures 472 00:20:57,890 --> 00:20:56,700 and we reported the incident as it 473 00:21:00,289 --> 00:20:57,900 occurred 474 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:00,299 and have avoided any speculation on the 475 00:21:11,210 --> 00:21:08,529 it was on the morning of January 18 476 00:21:14,150 --> 00:21:11,220 1978 when New Jersey State Police 477 00:21:16,789 --> 00:21:14,160 requested entry under McGuire Air Force 478 00:21:20,029 --> 00:21:16,799 Base along with the adjacent Fort Dix 479 00:21:20,930 --> 00:21:20,039 base UFOs had been reported earlier in 480 00:21:22,250 --> 00:21:20,940 the evening 481 00:21:25,310 --> 00:21:22,260 of what the police said they were 482 00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:25,320 looking for was Far Stranger Than Just 483 00:21:29,930 --> 00:21:27,900 lights in the sky when asked just 484 00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:29,940 exactly why the state troopers needed 485 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:32,700 access to the base they explained that 486 00:21:38,750 --> 00:21:35,520 an MP at Fort Dix had seen a low-flying 487 00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:38,760 object that had passed over his car as 488 00:21:44,390 --> 00:21:41,100 he looked back to the road below he hit 489 00:21:46,970 --> 00:21:44,400 the brakes in a panic standing in front 490 00:21:50,090 --> 00:21:46,980 of his vehicle in the headlights was a 491 00:21:54,590 --> 00:21:50,100 small being with a large head black eyes 492 00:21:56,390 --> 00:21:54,600 and a very slender body the MP panicked 493 00:21:59,870 --> 00:21:56,400 getting out of the car and pulling his 494 00:22:02,210 --> 00:21:59,880 45 automatic he demanded that the being 495 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:02,220 lay on the ground and when it didn't 496 00:22:07,430 --> 00:22:05,100 comply he began to shoot 497 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:07,440 wounded the being fled the scene 498 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:09,480 supposedly hopping the fence between the 499 00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:12,240 bases it then ran down a deserted 500 00:22:18,049 --> 00:22:14,880 Airfield Runway at McGuire and 501 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,059 eventually fell to the ground dying the 502 00:22:23,330 --> 00:22:20,400 guard on duty at this point one Sergeant 503 00:22:25,789 --> 00:22:23,340 Jeff Morse allowed the police onto the 504 00:22:28,549 --> 00:22:25,799 runway to search for the being there 505 00:22:31,669 --> 00:22:28,559 they found the body crouched in a fetal 506 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:31,679 position not breathing it was indeed 507 00:22:35,510 --> 00:22:32,820 dead 508 00:22:37,730 --> 00:22:35,520 shocked but keeping with protocol they 509 00:22:40,850 --> 00:22:37,740 began to rope off the area 510 00:22:44,029 --> 00:22:40,860 suddenly a group of Military Officers in 511 00:22:47,450 --> 00:22:44,039 blue Berets arrived distancing Morse 512 00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:47,460 from the area more swatched on from afar 513 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:50,220 as this new group clad in blue Berets 514 00:22:55,149 --> 00:22:52,980 whom he'd never seen before seemed to 515 00:22:58,789 --> 00:22:55,159 take charge of the situation 516 00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,799 UFO researcher Leonard Stringfield once 517 00:23:03,770 --> 00:23:01,280 interviewed Morse about the being itself 518 00:23:07,130 --> 00:23:03,780 Stringfield stated the following about 519 00:23:09,409 --> 00:23:07,140 how Morse described it quote never close 520 00:23:12,409 --> 00:23:09,419 enough to observe details such as facial 521 00:23:14,510 --> 00:23:12,419 features or its hands and feet he did 522 00:23:17,149 --> 00:23:14,520 recall that under the glare of truck 523 00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,159 headlights the skin of the unclad 524 00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:20,400 hairless body was wet shiny and 525 00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:22,799 snake-like the entity was about four 526 00:23:29,570 --> 00:23:25,500 feet in height with a large head slender 527 00:23:32,230 --> 00:23:29,580 torso thin arms and legs and overall a 528 00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:32,240 grayish Brown coloration end quote 529 00:23:37,310 --> 00:23:34,799 Stringfield also inquired about the 530 00:23:39,950 --> 00:23:37,320 retrieval operation itself as these blue 531 00:23:43,130 --> 00:23:39,960 beret officers worked their secretive 532 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,140 magic stringfeld stated that quote while 533 00:23:48,289 --> 00:23:45,600 on patrol Morse watched the blue Beret 534 00:23:50,570 --> 00:23:48,299 Specialists spray the corpse from a 535 00:23:52,669 --> 00:23:50,580 portable tank and cover it with a white 536 00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:52,679 sheet before the body was carefully 537 00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:55,260 placed onto a platform in a wooden frame 538 00:23:59,630 --> 00:23:57,120 built around it 539 00:24:02,690 --> 00:23:59,640 this was finally placed into a large 540 00:24:05,870 --> 00:24:02,700 square silver metal container about 10 541 00:24:09,890 --> 00:24:05,880 by 10 feet with indistinguishable blue 542 00:24:12,890 --> 00:24:09,900 markings end quote after this a c-141 543 00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:12,900 cargo aircraft landed on the site the 544 00:24:17,450 --> 00:24:15,480 beam was loaded on board and it has been 545 00:24:19,510 --> 00:24:17,460 suspected that it took off towards 546 00:24:22,370 --> 00:24:19,520 Wright-Patterson Air Force Base 547 00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:22,380 supposedly the same base the 1947 548 00:24:27,710 --> 00:24:25,080 Roswell crash bodies were shipped off to 549 00:24:29,690 --> 00:24:27,720 as well Morse and the police officer 550 00:24:31,669 --> 00:24:29,700 were separated and both were told that 551 00:24:33,770 --> 00:24:31,679 if they ever spoke of what they'd seen 552 00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:33,780 that day they would immediately be 553 00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:35,460 stripped of their duties in their 554 00:24:40,430 --> 00:24:38,220 respective jobs it was two days later 555 00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:40,440 when Morse and a few other Witnesses 556 00:24:45,950 --> 00:24:42,720 were shipped off to Wright-Patterson and 557 00:24:48,649 --> 00:24:45,960 received intense interrogations and 558 00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,659 statements by morse many years later he 559 00:24:54,649 --> 00:24:51,600 said quote they told me about my duty to 560 00:24:57,470 --> 00:24:54,659 keep my mouth shut I signed a form and 561 00:24:59,810 --> 00:24:57,480 it's supposed to bind me for life 562 00:25:02,090 --> 00:24:59,820 more Swiss brought back to McGuire Air 563 00:25:04,909 --> 00:25:02,100 Force Base debriefed by his superiors 564 00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:04,919 and the incident was never spoken of 565 00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:07,440 again it didn't take long for Morse to 566 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,659 start asking around about just exactly 567 00:25:14,090 --> 00:25:11,520 what he'd seen that night by other 568 00:25:16,669 --> 00:25:14,100 Witnesses when one of this got out to 569 00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:16,679 his superiors many of the Witnesses were 570 00:25:23,330 --> 00:25:20,460 shipped overseas including Morse who 571 00:25:27,230 --> 00:25:23,340 soon found himself stationed at Okinawa 572 00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,240 on desk duty to this day he admits that 573 00:25:31,789 --> 00:25:29,520 he's been constantly threatened not to 574 00:25:34,370 --> 00:25:31,799 speak of the event and that the military 575 00:25:37,310 --> 00:25:34,380 has gone to Great Lengths to keep him 576 00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:37,320 quiet including personality and 577 00:25:42,470 --> 00:25:39,900 professional attacks making it difficult 578 00:25:45,710 --> 00:25:42,480 for Morse to find employment in law 579 00:25:48,769 --> 00:25:45,720 enforcement if this wasn't extraordinary 580 00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:48,779 or incredible enough another key witness 581 00:25:54,409 --> 00:25:51,360 did come forward to corroborate this 582 00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:54,419 event major George feiler now retired 583 00:25:59,810 --> 00:25:56,640 was stationed at McGuire at the same 584 00:26:01,549 --> 00:25:59,820 time as an intelligence officer while 585 00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:01,559 not being present at the actual incident 586 00:26:06,289 --> 00:26:03,900 he heard firsthand about it the 587 00:26:09,169 --> 00:26:06,299 following morning in an interview with 588 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:09,179 ABC News filer stated that quote our 589 00:26:13,789 --> 00:26:11,039 security police went out there and found 590 00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:13,799 him the alien at the end of the runway 591 00:26:18,529 --> 00:26:17,279 dead they asked me to brief the general 592 00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:18,539 staff 593 00:26:23,690 --> 00:26:21,059 while this briefing was later canceled 594 00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:23,700 filer remained convinced that this event 595 00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:26,760 was truly bizarre and the joint bases 596 00:26:31,130 --> 00:26:28,799 were doing everything in their power to 597 00:26:33,470 --> 00:26:31,140 contain it and keep everyone silent 598 00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:33,480 while he couldn't prove that this alien 599 00:26:38,450 --> 00:26:35,880 being was of extraterrestrial origin 600 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:38,460 word around the base continued to spread 601 00:26:44,149 --> 00:26:41,279 and all were convinced that this was a 602 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,159 genuine UFO landing in the subsequent 603 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,120 death of its extraterrestrial occupant 604 00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,400 so did a panicked trigger happy MP 605 00:26:53,630 --> 00:26:52,799 actually shoot and kill an alien that 606 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,640 night 607 00:26:58,250 --> 00:26:56,400 the truth may never be known the lid on 608 00:27:00,230 --> 00:26:58,260 this and so many other apparent 609 00:27:03,110 --> 00:27:00,240 incidents of this silk have been so 610 00:27:05,690 --> 00:27:03,120 tightly wound shut that those involved 611 00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:05,700 fear the worst for their jobs or perhaps 612 00:27:12,409 --> 00:27:08,700 even their lives and I have to admit 613 00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:12,419 this one is pretty hard to swallow while 614 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:14,100 we may have statements we have 615 00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:17,520 absolutely no evidence or documents to 616 00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:20,640 back any of this up that's ufology at 617 00:27:27,470 --> 00:27:24,539 its best and worst but if this case of 618 00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,480 an alien termination is true then we 619 00:27:33,049 --> 00:27:29,760 have more to fear than just military 620 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,059 threats we have an alien race expecting 621 00:27:38,149 --> 00:27:35,520 one of their own to eventually come home 622 00:27:39,790 --> 00:27:38,159 they just probably weren't expecting it 623 00:27:49,149 --> 00:27:39,800 to be in a body bag 624 00:27:51,789 --> 00:27:49,159 [Music] 625 00:27:55,430 --> 00:27:51,799 foreign 626 00:27:57,890 --> 00:27:55,440 UFO cases ever reported took place in 627 00:27:59,409 --> 00:27:57,900 Minnesota in the early morning of August 628 00:28:03,830 --> 00:27:59,419 27 629 00:28:05,810 --> 00:28:03,840 1979. deputy sheriff Vel Johnson of the 630 00:28:07,970 --> 00:28:05,820 Marshall County Sheriff's Department was 631 00:28:10,070 --> 00:28:07,980 on patrol that morning when he noticed 632 00:28:12,769 --> 00:28:10,080 an extremely bright light coming through 633 00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:12,779 the side window of his patrol car he 634 00:28:16,669 --> 00:28:14,460 reported that the light was much 635 00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:16,679 stronger than any lighter motor vehicle 636 00:28:21,169 --> 00:28:19,080 on the road could produce 637 00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,179 his first thought was that it could 638 00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:23,520 potentially be an airplane smuggling in 639 00:28:29,649 --> 00:28:26,700 drugs from Canada he surmised the plane 640 00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:29,659 may have crashed or was about to crash 641 00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:32,520 he turned on the road to moving close 642 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:34,559 and head towards the light to 643 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:35,940 investigate 644 00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:38,159 the last thing you remembered was that 645 00:28:43,789 --> 00:28:40,860 The Light Came barreling towards him and 646 00:28:45,230 --> 00:28:43,799 reached the patrol car so fast that it 647 00:28:48,890 --> 00:28:45,240 seemed like it happened in a mere 648 00:28:50,890 --> 00:28:48,900 instant he heard glass breaking and then 649 00:28:54,289 --> 00:28:50,900 he went unconscious 650 00:28:56,570 --> 00:28:54,299 from the analysis of the accident it was 651 00:28:59,630 --> 00:28:56,580 estimated that Deputy Johnson was 652 00:29:02,029 --> 00:28:59,640 unconscious for about 39 minutes 653 00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:02,039 when he awoke he radioed headquarters 654 00:29:06,049 --> 00:29:04,140 for help in a weak voice 655 00:29:09,950 --> 00:29:06,059 stating that something had hit his 656 00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:09,960 patrol car but he did not know what when 657 00:29:14,570 --> 00:29:12,840 a second Deputy arrived on the scene he 658 00:29:17,149 --> 00:29:14,580 immediately called the ambulance and 659 00:29:20,389 --> 00:29:17,159 Deputy Johnson was taken to the nearby 660 00:29:24,049 --> 00:29:20,399 Warren Hospital Deputy Johnson's eyes 661 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,059 were reported to be red and puffy the 662 00:29:28,490 --> 00:29:26,399 medical doctor who examined the deputy 663 00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:28,500 said the injuries to his eyes looked 664 00:29:33,769 --> 00:29:30,659 like they had been inflicted by a 665 00:29:36,769 --> 00:29:33,779 welder's torch he also said Deputy 666 00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:36,779 Johnson was in a State of Shock 667 00:29:40,850 --> 00:29:38,460 the Marshall County Sheriff's Department 668 00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:40,860 investigated the Val Johnson UFO 669 00:29:45,649 --> 00:29:43,860 incident extensively but experts were 670 00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:45,659 also brought in because the physical 671 00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:49,919 evidence Left Behind was so baffling the 672 00:29:56,269 --> 00:29:52,559 windshield of the patrol car was badly 673 00:29:58,549 --> 00:29:56,279 cracked from top to bottom however the 674 00:30:02,450 --> 00:29:58,559 patterns in which it was broken defied 675 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,460 normal analysis it did not seem to be 676 00:30:08,870 --> 00:30:05,520 the result of an outside force or inside 677 00:30:11,649 --> 00:30:08,880 force it almost seemed as if there were 678 00:30:14,330 --> 00:30:11,659 both inside and outside forces working 679 00:30:16,490 --> 00:30:14,340 simultaneously to create a fractured 680 00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:16,500 pattern that the investigators had never 681 00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:18,720 seen before or could explain with 682 00:30:22,850 --> 00:30:20,520 ordinary techniques 683 00:30:25,549 --> 00:30:22,860 They concluded that there seemed to be 684 00:30:27,769 --> 00:30:25,559 four separate areas of impact but could 685 00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:27,779 not even Hazard a guess as to what 686 00:30:32,149 --> 00:30:30,480 caused the pattern they saw on the left 687 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:32,159 side of the front hood of the patrol car 688 00:30:37,130 --> 00:30:34,320 there was a strange one and a half inch 689 00:30:39,169 --> 00:30:37,140 circular Dent the headlights were broken 690 00:30:42,289 --> 00:30:39,179 on the side of both the inside and the 691 00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:42,299 outside of the patrol car however the 692 00:30:47,090 --> 00:30:43,620 headlights on the other side of the 693 00:30:50,690 --> 00:30:47,100 patrol car were left untouched the main 694 00:30:53,690 --> 00:30:50,700 antenna was inexplicably bent at a 60 695 00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:53,700 degree angle starting at six inches from 696 00:30:59,810 --> 00:30:56,100 the base of the antenna the antenna in 697 00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:59,820 the truck was also damaged one of the 698 00:31:04,730 --> 00:31:01,860 strangest things the investigators found 699 00:31:08,389 --> 00:31:04,740 was that the patrol car clock was behind 700 00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:08,399 14 minutes and Deputy Johnson's wrist 701 00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:11,460 watch was also behind the exact same 702 00:31:16,850 --> 00:31:14,940 amount of time before the incident both 703 00:31:18,889 --> 00:31:16,860 the patrol car clock and Deputy 704 00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:18,899 Johnson's wristwatch had been 705 00:31:24,289 --> 00:31:20,520 synchronized with the clock at 706 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:24,299 headquarters no logical explanation has 707 00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:26,580 ever been given for why the patrol car 708 00:31:32,330 --> 00:31:28,980 clock and the wristwatch were both 709 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:32,340 affected in the exact same way while 710 00:31:36,950 --> 00:31:34,320 there were many experts involved in 711 00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:36,960 analyzing the damage patrol car and 712 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:39,360 other physical evidence one is 713 00:31:45,649 --> 00:31:43,140 particularly noteworthy this was J Allen 714 00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:45,659 heineck the consultant for the U.S Air 715 00:31:51,529 --> 00:31:49,380 Force's UFO Project Blue Book as Dr 716 00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:51,539 heineck and his team investigated the 717 00:31:57,470 --> 00:31:54,360 Val Johnson UFO incident he concluded 718 00:31:59,630 --> 00:31:57,480 that it was not a hoax further nothing 719 00:32:01,070 --> 00:31:59,640 in Deputy Johnson's statement seemed 720 00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,080 untruthful 721 00:32:05,690 --> 00:32:03,360 Dr heineck proposed that the cracked 722 00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:05,700 windshield had been damaged by rocks 723 00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:08,340 being carried in a wake of a very large 724 00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:12,320 object moving at extraordinary speeds 725 00:32:18,289 --> 00:32:15,240 further he proposed that the antenna had 726 00:32:20,690 --> 00:32:18,299 been bent for the sheer velocity of the 727 00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,700 air that rushed past the patrol car that 728 00:32:24,950 --> 00:32:22,559 night 729 00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:24,960 patrol car is now on permanent display 730 00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:27,120 at the Marshall County Historical 731 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,100 Society Museum 732 00:32:34,149 --> 00:32:31,440 it is always one of the top attractions 733 00:32:37,850 --> 00:32:34,159 during the annual Minnesota county fair 734 00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:37,860 when the incident occurred in 1979 there 735 00:32:42,409 --> 00:32:40,380 were only about 60 000 miles on the 736 00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:42,419 patrol car so the Marshall County 737 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:44,580 Sheriff officials wanted the car 738 00:32:50,990 --> 00:32:47,760 repaired and put back into Commission 739 00:32:53,570 --> 00:32:51,000 however Sheriff Dennis Breck convinced 740 00:32:56,029 --> 00:32:53,580 them to decommission the car and put it 741 00:32:58,610 --> 00:32:56,039 on public display 742 00:33:01,490 --> 00:32:58,620 the patrol car has achieved legendary 743 00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:01,500 status among those who believe in 744 00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:05,100 paranormal phenomena and UFOs 745 00:33:10,669 --> 00:33:08,399 in fact the Vel Johnson incident is so 746 00:33:14,509 --> 00:33:10,679 famous there have been two documentary 747 00:33:17,509 --> 00:33:14,519 style television programs devoted to it 748 00:33:20,269 --> 00:33:17,519 Vel Johnson received much attention for 749 00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:20,279 the incident so much in fact that he 750 00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:22,200 told the press that the incident had 751 00:33:27,950 --> 00:33:24,179 caused a great deal of emotional 752 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:27,960 strength on himself and his family while 753 00:33:33,130 --> 00:33:30,720 he did appear on several interviews with 754 00:33:36,169 --> 00:33:33,140 local news and even Good Morning America 755 00:33:37,810 --> 00:33:36,179 he began to withdraw from other press 756 00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:37,820 appearances 757 00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:41,039 no matter what this UFO encounter will 758 00:33:47,470 --> 00:33:43,980 live in the history books as one of the 759 00:33:50,090 --> 00:33:47,480 most fascinating UFO cases of all time 760 00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:50,100 still to this day the incident serves as 761 00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:52,380 one of the very best cases with physical 762 00:33:59,389 --> 00:33:57,360 evidence was left behind by a UFO every 763 00:34:01,789 --> 00:33:59,399 year since the incident one Minnesota 764 00:34:04,850 --> 00:34:01,799 has received a great many visitors 765 00:34:08,089 --> 00:34:04,860 wishing to see for themselves the patrol 766 00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:08,099 car with its peculiar damage and the 767 00:34:13,250 --> 00:34:11,520 area where the incident occurred the 768 00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:13,260 light that's coming at me was extremely 769 00:34:18,649 --> 00:34:15,480 bright the inside of the car lit up I 770 00:34:21,349 --> 00:34:18,659 can remember that and it was a very 771 00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:21,359 dazzling brilliant occurrence something 772 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:24,839 did strike my vehicle something 773 00:34:29,990 --> 00:34:27,599 didn't want me there apparently or it 774 00:34:34,690 --> 00:34:30,000 was you know I I can't put a judgment on 775 00:34:40,310 --> 00:34:37,669 the summer in the skies podcast is free 776 00:34:42,770 --> 00:34:40,320 to listen to every week but if you would 777 00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:42,780 like to help support the show we have a 778 00:34:47,629 --> 00:34:45,599 very active patreon page where you give 779 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:47,639 what you think the show is worth in 780 00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:50,040 return you'll get early access to the 781 00:34:56,030 --> 00:34:53,760 main show bonus episodes and priority to 782 00:34:58,670 --> 00:34:56,040 ask our guests your listener questions 783 00:35:02,150 --> 00:34:58,680 your support truly makes the show 784 00:35:04,990 --> 00:35:02,160 continue and grow so to learn more and 785 00:35:06,570 --> 00:35:05,000 to join visit patreon.com 786 00:35:15,609 --> 00:35:06,580 somewhere Skies 787 00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:21,349 July 1st 1965 fell in Seoul France 788 00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:23,400 it was approximately six in the morning 789 00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:26,220 when Maurice Moss was getting ready for 790 00:35:31,010 --> 00:35:28,020 work on his farm 791 00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,020 suddenly he heard a strange noise coming 792 00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:33,359 from his lavender field 793 00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:35,880 Moss assumed it was one of the military 794 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,460 helicopters that would occasionally land 795 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:41,040 on his property buried that the 796 00:35:45,109 --> 00:35:42,900 helicopter might be crushing his 797 00:35:47,690 --> 00:35:45,119 lavender he made his way over to the 798 00:35:50,390 --> 00:35:47,700 field and intended to tell the pilot to 799 00:35:53,150 --> 00:35:50,400 park someplace else 800 00:35:55,490 --> 00:35:53,160 but rather than a helicopter Moss 801 00:35:59,450 --> 00:35:55,500 stumbled upon an egg-shaped vehicle 802 00:36:03,170 --> 00:35:59,460 about the size of an automobile 803 00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:03,180 it stood on six thin legs sitting about 804 00:36:09,530 --> 00:36:06,180 200 feet away from him he noticed two 805 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:09,540 small boys about four feet tall standing 806 00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:12,960 near the craft apparently observing the 807 00:36:19,069 --> 00:36:16,260 lavender as Moss began to walk closer to 808 00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:19,079 confront these boys he realized they 809 00:36:23,329 --> 00:36:21,480 weren't boys at all they weren't even 810 00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:23,339 human 811 00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:26,760 dressed in green one-piece suits these 812 00:36:33,170 --> 00:36:29,220 creatures had abnormally large and bald 813 00:36:35,930 --> 00:36:33,180 heads no lips pointed chins pale skin 814 00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:35,940 and small hands 815 00:36:41,650 --> 00:36:38,160 one of the creatures suddenly turned 816 00:36:45,230 --> 00:36:41,660 around and pointed a small tube at Moss 817 00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:45,240 blasting him with a light that paralyzed 818 00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:46,079 him 819 00:36:50,750 --> 00:36:48,599 these creatures stared at Moss for about 820 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:50,760 a minute communicating with one another 821 00:36:56,750 --> 00:36:54,060 by low guttural grunts 822 00:36:59,349 --> 00:36:56,760 a door then slid open across the craft 823 00:37:02,150 --> 00:36:59,359 in the two mysterious creatures 824 00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:02,160 disappeared into it after the door 825 00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:04,800 closed the craft took off into the sky 826 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,520 and out of Moss's sight 827 00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:11,040 was paralyzed for about 15 minutes 828 00:37:16,190 --> 00:37:14,280 before he could even begin to move after 829 00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:16,200 checking to inspect the marks the 830 00:37:21,530 --> 00:37:19,020 Craft's legs had made on his lavender he 831 00:37:23,089 --> 00:37:21,540 rushed to town and told a cafe owner 832 00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:23,099 what had happened 833 00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:25,680 it wasn't long before the story hit the 834 00:37:32,650 --> 00:37:28,740 media and authorities and Moss's Farm 835 00:37:35,569 --> 00:37:32,660 soon became infested with tourists 836 00:37:38,690 --> 00:37:35,579 UFO investigators took samples of the 837 00:37:41,690 --> 00:37:38,700 lavender and soil allegedly touched by 838 00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:41,700 the craft and Moss freely talked to them 839 00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:44,359 about his experience 840 00:37:49,130 --> 00:37:46,560 investigators found that the ground or 841 00:37:52,329 --> 00:37:49,140 the craft had landed was soaked with 842 00:37:54,530 --> 00:37:52,339 moisture although no rain had fallen 843 00:37:57,050 --> 00:37:54,540 geometrically spaced indentations 844 00:37:58,910 --> 00:37:57,060 covered the area and the plants were 845 00:38:01,730 --> 00:37:58,920 affected by the proximity of the 846 00:38:04,010 --> 00:38:01,740 phenomenon appearing to decay in direct 847 00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:04,020 proportion to their distance from the 848 00:38:09,890 --> 00:38:06,900 central column of The Craft 849 00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:09,900 the calcium content of the soil at the 850 00:38:14,329 --> 00:38:12,119 Landing site was found to be much higher 851 00:38:16,490 --> 00:38:14,339 than in samples taken from other areas 852 00:38:19,069 --> 00:38:16,500 in the field 853 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:19,079 the case caught the attention of noted 854 00:38:24,290 --> 00:38:22,320 UFO researcher and astronomer Dr Jacques 855 00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:24,300 valet and all of a sudden he was 856 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,839 paralyzed he saw two small creatures 857 00:38:32,210 --> 00:38:29,520 they were not quite the ones that you 858 00:38:34,609 --> 00:38:32,220 have here they were looked they looked 859 00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:34,619 they were very small but they had normal 860 00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:36,420 heads and they were they had normal 861 00:38:42,530 --> 00:38:40,380 human features but he was paralyzed and 862 00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:42,540 they started speaking to each other in 863 00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:44,460 some strange language went back into the 864 00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:46,380 object the object took off the 865 00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:47,460 interesting thing is that there were 866 00:38:50,990 --> 00:38:49,680 traces left those traces were studied by 867 00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:51,000 various agencies of the French 868 00:38:55,250 --> 00:38:52,980 government there was no question he was 869 00:38:58,670 --> 00:38:55,260 not lying the the traces could not be 870 00:39:01,130 --> 00:38:58,680 duplicated the and he was paralyzed for 871 00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:01,140 20 minutes after the object left which 872 00:39:05,329 --> 00:39:03,300 is is very interesting from the point of 873 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:05,339 view of the the effect of the kind of 874 00:39:09,650 --> 00:39:07,200 radiation that that object may have been 875 00:39:12,050 --> 00:39:09,660 creating and this is a very common 876 00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:12,060 report on the power of witnesses that 877 00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:14,640 they this feeling of paralysis 878 00:39:19,609 --> 00:39:16,680 valet returned to the scene of the 879 00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:19,619 incident in 1979 and meeting with 880 00:39:24,589 --> 00:39:21,660 Maurice moss and two of his close 881 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:24,599 friends made a number of interesting 882 00:39:30,050 --> 00:39:27,960 observations valet noted that Moss was 883 00:39:32,750 --> 00:39:30,060 reluctant to give all the details of his 884 00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:32,760 experience to investigators as well as 885 00:39:38,210 --> 00:39:36,180 to his own family at the time including 886 00:39:40,490 --> 00:39:38,220 the fact that he believed that some type 887 00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:40,500 of Silent Communication took place 888 00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:43,680 between himself and these creatures 889 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,140 from the beginning he wanted to minimize 890 00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:48,720 the impact of the experience not wanting 891 00:39:54,589 --> 00:39:51,900 publicity amongst other reasons like 892 00:39:57,170 --> 00:39:54,599 many experiencers of this phenomenon he 893 00:39:59,990 --> 00:39:57,180 had changed in many ways as a result of 894 00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,000 the experience including the belief that 895 00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:02,960 some form of contact once established 896 00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:06,060 continued in subtle forms 897 00:40:11,329 --> 00:40:08,700 valet concluded that quote throughout 898 00:40:13,550 --> 00:40:11,339 this discussion with Mr Moss I had the 899 00:40:16,250 --> 00:40:13,560 feeling that I was in the presence of a 900 00:40:19,790 --> 00:40:16,260 very intelligent man capable of Deep 901 00:40:22,730 --> 00:40:19,800 Emotions and rational thought he is also 902 00:40:24,950 --> 00:40:22,740 quite humble he has declined to appear 903 00:40:27,410 --> 00:40:24,960 on a television documentary with a 904 00:40:29,510 --> 00:40:27,420 nationally known journalist I had 905 00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:29,520 brought with me a photograph of similar 906 00:40:35,450 --> 00:40:32,880 traces left after another case Mr Moss 907 00:40:38,510 --> 00:40:35,460 looked at me with a mixture of amazement 908 00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:38,520 and relief that someone else was aware 909 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:41,400 of these particular marks he told us 910 00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:43,320 that he sometimes found them in his 911 00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:46,560 field that's how he knows that they have 912 00:40:52,490 --> 00:40:47,760 come back 913 00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:52,500 he always erases the traces immediately 914 00:40:57,650 --> 00:40:55,619 putting back on this experience Moss 915 00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:57,660 said that he wasn't afraid at all during 916 00:41:03,770 --> 00:40:59,760 the encounter and believed that the 917 00:41:06,410 --> 00:41:03,780 creatures had no desire to hurt him Moss 918 00:41:08,630 --> 00:41:06,420 did however refuse to elaborate on the 919 00:41:10,490 --> 00:41:08,640 psychological and physical effects he 920 00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:10,500 felt afterward 921 00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:13,680 he did admit to feeling extremely sleepy 922 00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:16,200 during the first few weeks sometimes 923 00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,380 sleeping up to 12 hours a day in 924 00:41:24,230 --> 00:41:21,839 particular there was one big detail of 925 00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:24,240 the encounter that he refused to discuss 926 00:41:30,109 --> 00:41:27,240 with anybody he was quoted as saying 927 00:41:33,349 --> 00:41:30,119 nobody will make me tell it 928 00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:33,359 his wife later said in an interview that 929 00:41:37,609 --> 00:41:35,040 he constantly thought about the 930 00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:37,619 creatures and quote considered his 931 00:41:44,390 --> 00:41:39,660 encounter with them a spiritual 932 00:41:47,270 --> 00:41:44,400 experience whatever else he saw or heard 933 00:41:52,069 --> 00:41:47,280 or experienced Moss would take to the 934 00:41:54,770 --> 00:41:52,079 Grave with him dying on May 14 2004. 935 00:41:56,870 --> 00:41:54,780 and with that we will never truly know 936 00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:56,880 the one detail of the encounter he 937 00:42:01,970 --> 00:41:59,400 refused to share with the public 938 00:42:04,430 --> 00:42:01,980 and this enduring mystery of the 939 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:04,440 encounter in the lavender field May 940 00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:07,330 forever remain unexplained 941 00:42:29,210 --> 00:42:26,750 on the evening of September 4th 1964 28 942 00:42:31,730 --> 00:42:29,220 year old Donald Shrum along with two 943 00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:31,740 friends Vincent Alvarez and Tim 944 00:42:36,770 --> 00:42:34,380 Trueblood were hunting in the Tahoe 945 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:36,780 National Forest near Cisco Grove 946 00:42:42,589 --> 00:42:39,660 California all had considerable 947 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:42,599 experience bow hunting in all were 948 00:42:47,329 --> 00:42:45,660 overall General outdoorsmen on this 949 00:42:49,670 --> 00:42:47,339 particular night after having 950 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:49,680 established a camp they found themselves 951 00:42:53,810 --> 00:42:51,540 hunting for deer 952 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:53,820 perhaps due to their comfort in the 953 00:42:58,430 --> 00:42:55,920 outdoor environment with a night fast 954 00:43:00,349 --> 00:42:58,440 approaching no less all agreed that they 955 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,359 would push deep into the woods in 956 00:43:05,390 --> 00:43:03,119 pursuit of their targets and if they had 957 00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:05,400 to spend the night in the woods and 958 00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:07,260 Rendezvous back in the camp in the 959 00:43:12,170 --> 00:43:10,260 morning before long all three of them 960 00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:12,180 found themselves separated from one 961 00:43:18,050 --> 00:43:14,819 another looking for their potential 962 00:43:20,569 --> 00:43:18,060 targets with daylight losing the battle 963 00:43:22,670 --> 00:43:20,579 against the night Shrum would make the 964 00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:22,680 decision to find somewhere to bed down 965 00:43:28,010 --> 00:43:23,880 for the night 966 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,020 or more accurately bed up Shrum head 967 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,000 with him a military-style belt which 968 00:43:33,170 --> 00:43:32,400 allowed for him to secure himself in a 969 00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,180 tree 970 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,280 given the number of wild animals who 971 00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:37,680 might wish to turn the tables on the 972 00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:39,960 hunter Shrum believed this was a 973 00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:41,940 preferable option to camping on the 974 00:43:48,410 --> 00:43:46,260 ground alone and ultimately defenseless 975 00:43:51,230 --> 00:43:48,420 shortly after securing himself for the 976 00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:51,240 night a strange light appeared in the 977 00:43:55,550 --> 00:43:52,160 distance 978 00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:55,560 of more concern to Shrum was a 979 00:44:01,609 --> 00:43:58,079 zigzagging pattern around the trees at 980 00:44:03,890 --> 00:44:01,619 low altitude which headed towards him 981 00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:03,900 thinking his two friends had arranged a 982 00:44:08,450 --> 00:44:05,819 search for him in the form of a 983 00:44:10,490 --> 00:44:08,460 helicopter he jumped from the tree and 984 00:44:13,370 --> 00:44:10,500 quickly released three of his flares to 985 00:44:15,349 --> 00:44:13,380 give away his destination as he was 986 00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:15,359 waving his arms and yelling for 987 00:44:20,450 --> 00:44:18,000 attention he began to realize what was 988 00:44:22,730 --> 00:44:20,460 heading his way wasn't a rescue 989 00:44:25,250 --> 00:44:22,740 helicopter after all 990 00:44:28,010 --> 00:44:25,260 the glowing object finally stopped 991 00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:28,020 around 50 yards from his position 992 00:44:33,589 --> 00:44:30,540 it was spherical but unlike anything 993 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:33,599 he'd ever seen before he quickly made 994 00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:36,000 his way back up the tree making sure his 995 00:44:40,190 --> 00:44:37,500 bow was ready 996 00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:40,200 fear was now rising at a seemingly 997 00:44:46,370 --> 00:44:43,680 Unstoppable rate within him that fear 998 00:44:49,430 --> 00:44:46,380 would rise even more when three small 999 00:44:51,710 --> 00:44:49,440 humanoid creatures emerged from the 1000 00:44:53,690 --> 00:44:51,720 craft and began making their way 1001 00:44:56,510 --> 00:44:53,700 straight towards him 1002 00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:56,520 as they came closer he could see that 1003 00:45:03,050 --> 00:44:58,440 while two of them were most definitely 1004 00:45:05,390 --> 00:45:03,060 humanoid the third was more robot-like 1005 00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:05,400 the two humanoids began to shake the 1006 00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:08,040 tree obviously in an effort to force him 1007 00:45:11,809 --> 00:45:09,240 from it 1008 00:45:15,530 --> 00:45:11,819 he would cling on with all his strength 1009 00:45:17,809 --> 00:45:15,540 however when a white Vapor shot out from 1010 00:45:21,609 --> 00:45:17,819 the robotic creature's mouth he later 1011 00:45:23,990 --> 00:45:21,619 realized he was knocked unconscious only 1012 00:45:26,690 --> 00:45:24,000 momentarily however 1013 00:45:29,510 --> 00:45:26,700 aside from an intense feeling of nausea 1014 00:45:32,089 --> 00:45:29,520 he was unharmed he began lighting the 1015 00:45:34,010 --> 00:45:32,099 matches he used for his flares dropping 1016 00:45:36,349 --> 00:45:34,020 them towards the menacing Trio in an 1017 00:45:38,390 --> 00:45:36,359 effort to force them away 1018 00:45:40,970 --> 00:45:38,400 although they would back away for a 1019 00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:40,980 short while they soon continued their 1020 00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:44,640 assault by this time Shrum had managed 1021 00:45:48,829 --> 00:45:47,220 to load an arrow into his bow and let it 1022 00:45:51,890 --> 00:45:48,839 fly 1023 00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:51,900 soared into the robot's Direction 1024 00:45:57,950 --> 00:45:55,020 seconds later a shower of Sparks flew 1025 00:46:00,589 --> 00:45:57,960 into the air suggesting a direct hit 1026 00:46:02,809 --> 00:46:00,599 as quickly as he could he fired two more 1027 00:46:05,450 --> 00:46:02,819 arrows in the general vicinity of the 1028 00:46:08,750 --> 00:46:05,460 creature's location causing all of them 1029 00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:08,760 to back away however before he could 1030 00:46:15,470 --> 00:46:11,760 take advantage of the situation a second 1031 00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:15,480 robot appeared and once again a white 1032 00:46:20,990 --> 00:46:18,480 Vapor hit Shrum and caused him to lose 1033 00:46:24,230 --> 00:46:21,000 Consciousness again 1034 00:46:25,730 --> 00:46:24,240 when he awoke this final time he was 1035 00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,740 alone 1036 00:46:31,190 --> 00:46:27,839 there was no sign of the ship having 1037 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:31,200 returned but all the creatures including 1038 00:46:37,849 --> 00:46:34,800 the robots were gone he dropped himself 1039 00:46:39,650 --> 00:46:37,859 from the tree dazed tired but largely 1040 00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,660 unhurt 1041 00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:41,760 he would set out for the pre-arranged 1042 00:46:46,490 --> 00:46:44,400 meeting place of the campsite from the 1043 00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:46,500 previous afternoon 1044 00:46:51,670 --> 00:46:48,960 once there he would discover both of his 1045 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,680 friends waiting for him as planned 1046 00:46:56,329 --> 00:46:54,240 incidentally all three of the men would 1047 00:46:59,829 --> 00:46:56,339 return to the destination later that day 1048 00:47:02,750 --> 00:46:59,839 after hearing shrum's incredible story 1049 00:47:05,270 --> 00:47:02,760 they did find several of the arrows he 1050 00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,280 had fired as well as several pieces of 1051 00:47:09,230 --> 00:47:07,200 charred clothing 1052 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:09,240 his two friends would believe his claims 1053 00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:11,880 though in part due to Alvarez's own 1054 00:47:15,770 --> 00:47:13,859 sighting of the glowing craft leaving 1055 00:47:18,530 --> 00:47:15,780 the scene 1056 00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:18,540 however when shrum's mother-in-law upon 1057 00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:20,640 hearing of the encounter told an 1058 00:47:26,270 --> 00:47:22,619 astronomer friend from the local College 1059 00:47:28,609 --> 00:47:26,280 things began to take a gritty turn 1060 00:47:32,089 --> 00:47:28,619 the astronomer would immediately contact 1061 00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:32,099 the nearby McClelland Air Force Base he 1062 00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:34,260 would inform them of the account and the 1063 00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:36,660 location of the witness 1064 00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:39,420 even more bizarre instead of visiting 1065 00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:41,760 him at his home to listen to his version 1066 00:47:47,089 --> 00:47:44,220 of events even though he had not yet 1067 00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:47,099 made any sort of report they would 1068 00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:50,220 arrange to meet in an empty house at an 1069 00:47:56,510 --> 00:47:52,920 off-base Housing Development 1070 00:47:58,370 --> 00:47:56,520 Trump would agree to the meeting the two 1071 00:48:01,010 --> 00:47:58,380 officers present would listen to his 1072 00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:01,020 account and then confiscate several of 1073 00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,460 the arrows 1074 00:48:09,109 --> 00:48:05,040 later claims suggested that these had 1075 00:48:11,690 --> 00:48:09,119 shavings of the robot on them then the 1076 00:48:15,349 --> 00:48:11,700 officers insisted that what he had just 1077 00:48:17,470 --> 00:48:15,359 described to them hadn't happened or not 1078 00:48:20,089 --> 00:48:17,480 in the way he remembered 1079 00:48:23,089 --> 00:48:20,099 furthermore they would present several 1080 00:48:26,690 --> 00:48:23,099 alternative scenarios as if giving him 1081 00:48:28,670 --> 00:48:26,700 the opportunity to pick one for himself 1082 00:48:31,370 --> 00:48:28,680 he would eventually agree that he wasn't 1083 00:48:33,650 --> 00:48:31,380 certain of what he'd seen 1084 00:48:37,270 --> 00:48:33,660 if for no other reason than to keep his 1085 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:37,280 employers from facing similar questions 1086 00:48:42,829 --> 00:48:40,500 Shrum has stuck to the same story and 1087 00:48:46,069 --> 00:48:42,839 version of events for over half a 1088 00:48:48,109 --> 00:48:46,079 century I'm going to leave you with an 1089 00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:48,119 audio clip of an interview conducted by 1090 00:48:55,670 --> 00:48:53,099 UFO researcher and author Ruben riarte 1091 00:48:57,770 --> 00:48:55,680 for a complete and comprehensive look at 1092 00:49:01,550 --> 00:48:57,780 this case be sure to purchase the book 1093 00:49:04,970 --> 00:49:01,560 aliens in the forest The Cisco Grove UFO 1094 00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:04,980 incident co-written by uriarte and no 1095 00:49:11,210 --> 00:49:08,240 Torres in this exclusive interview 1096 00:49:14,690 --> 00:49:11,220 you'll hear Shrum recount that harrowing 1097 00:49:16,730 --> 00:49:14,700 day in his own words and I heard some 1098 00:49:19,910 --> 00:49:16,740 thrashing through the brush and probably 1099 00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:19,920 5-10 minutes these two humanoids come 1100 00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:22,319 out of the brush and they kind of broke 1101 00:49:27,109 --> 00:49:25,200 some of the brush off and and was 1102 00:49:29,270 --> 00:49:27,119 looking at it then they came straight 1103 00:49:33,230 --> 00:49:29,280 underneath the tree and looked up at me 1104 00:49:36,170 --> 00:49:33,240 and I I knew right then I was fingered 1105 00:49:37,870 --> 00:49:36,180 they found you yeah they found me can 1106 00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:37,880 you describe them for us 1107 00:49:43,849 --> 00:49:42,000 yeah they were looked like uh four or 1108 00:49:46,550 --> 00:49:43,859 five feet of course I'm looking down at 1109 00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:46,560 them so they they'd be shorter than they 1110 00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:49,560 probably are and they had a silvery like 1111 00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:52,560 a one-piece a suit on and it seemed like 1112 00:50:00,109 --> 00:49:56,400 it had the the joints puffy joints you 1113 00:50:02,809 --> 00:50:00,119 know on the shoulders and elbows and and 1114 00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:02,819 the legs I didn't see that clear were 1115 00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:06,000 you able to see their faces no it was 1116 00:50:11,210 --> 00:50:08,220 just a kind of a dark shadow I could see 1117 00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,220 the the two uh like eyes that were 1118 00:50:15,170 --> 00:50:12,960 looked like welding goggles to me 1119 00:50:17,210 --> 00:50:15,180 they're the same as welding goggles 1120 00:50:19,370 --> 00:50:17,220 they're about two inches in diameter it 1121 00:50:21,230 --> 00:50:19,380 reminded me just like I said like a 1122 00:50:23,569 --> 00:50:21,240 welding goggles and then the rest of the 1123 00:50:26,450 --> 00:50:23,579 face was kind of a blur I couldn't see 1124 00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:26,460 looking down at them then I saw two 1125 00:50:31,849 --> 00:50:29,520 flashing red orange eyes just picking 1126 00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:31,859 this way down the ridge Just Between the 1127 00:50:37,910 --> 00:50:33,900 rocks and and around them and everything 1128 00:50:42,109 --> 00:50:37,920 and come down and was on this big 1129 00:50:44,210 --> 00:50:42,119 boulder this big Flat Rock and then he 1130 00:50:47,329 --> 00:50:44,220 kind of looked up at me and he moved his 1131 00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:47,339 hand through the fire Cinders and kind 1132 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,660 of scattered them then he come down up 1133 00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:53,940 on the Rock he was about seven feet from 1134 00:51:01,250 --> 00:50:58,140 me and then he he touched his mouth and 1135 00:51:03,530 --> 00:51:01,260 the kind of a steamed Vapor come out of 1136 00:51:07,970 --> 00:51:03,540 his mouth and it lit up his face so I 1137 00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:07,980 could see some detail and then I blacked 1138 00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:10,319 out when that steam hitting me kind of 1139 00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:13,380 took the air from me and I'd gas for air 1140 00:51:17,750 --> 00:51:15,960 and then black out and it fell over my 1141 00:51:20,510 --> 00:51:17,760 bow that's the only thing that kept me 1142 00:51:23,089 --> 00:51:20,520 in the tree and then so I figured they 1143 00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:23,099 were out to get me then the eyes of this 1144 00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:24,079 other 1145 00:51:29,870 --> 00:51:27,359 creature like the robot what did that 1146 00:51:32,569 --> 00:51:29,880 look like to you and it had kind of like 1147 00:51:35,390 --> 00:51:32,579 fire it's kind of a orange reddish 1148 00:51:37,309 --> 00:51:35,400 orange in our yellowish orange it kind 1149 00:51:39,770 --> 00:51:37,319 of flickered like fire and they're about 1150 00:51:43,010 --> 00:51:39,780 the same diameter as about two inches in 1151 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:43,020 diameter as the humanoids I had a 60 1152 00:51:48,470 --> 00:51:46,260 pound bow which is a very high velocity 1153 00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:48,480 it seems how the robot's the only thing 1154 00:51:53,630 --> 00:51:51,240 that was causing me harm I shot the 1155 00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:53,640 chest area and it had the velocity of a 1156 00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:56,400 rifle at that at that distance because 1157 00:52:02,329 --> 00:51:58,800 I'm only about seven eight feet from him 1158 00:52:05,089 --> 00:52:02,339 and it when I hit the chest the Sparks 1159 00:52:08,089 --> 00:52:05,099 would fly like an arc welder kinda and 1160 00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:08,099 then that that robot backed up and 1161 00:52:13,549 --> 00:52:10,920 almost knocked him down he kind of fell 1162 00:52:16,250 --> 00:52:13,559 back against a rock and then I ran out 1163 00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:16,260 of uh arrows so I only had three left 1164 00:52:22,730 --> 00:52:19,200 and I thought well I had that's when 1165 00:52:26,210 --> 00:52:22,740 Paul made Herod is just I mean the cap I 1166 00:52:28,250 --> 00:52:26,220 had on was just soaked with oil this is 1167 00:52:31,730 --> 00:52:28,260 for your hair yeah from my hair yeah 1168 00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:31,740 yeah yeah Pomade and I always carried 1169 00:52:37,549 --> 00:52:34,559 all kinds of books in matches with me 1170 00:52:39,410 --> 00:52:37,559 when I hunted and so I lit that cap and 1171 00:52:41,990 --> 00:52:39,420 it just blazed up and I dropped it down 1172 00:52:45,890 --> 00:52:42,000 the base of the tree and just in that 1173 00:52:50,329 --> 00:52:45,900 instant they they moved back about 12 15 1174 00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:50,339 feet and the the I glanced over at the 1175 00:52:56,210 --> 00:52:54,059 ship that was uh over the canyon kind of 1176 00:52:58,430 --> 00:52:56,220 almost level with me and it was almost 1177 00:53:00,950 --> 00:52:58,440 out of sight it was just like a star it 1178 00:53:03,230 --> 00:53:00,960 moved that fast just in that second so 1179 00:53:05,990 --> 00:53:03,240 then I got the idea that they're scared 1180 00:53:09,049 --> 00:53:06,000 of fire so I I burned everything but my 1181 00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:09,059 t-shirt my jeans and come to find out 1182 00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:12,660 later on that it was 32 degrees out and 1183 00:53:17,089 --> 00:53:15,359 I was shaking and kind of Overexposed 1184 00:53:19,190 --> 00:53:17,099 for the weather well when I throw 1185 00:53:22,670 --> 00:53:19,200 through my after my hat I threw my 1186 00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:22,680 canteen down and they they picked it up 1187 00:53:28,130 --> 00:53:25,140 and looked at it and threw it back down 1188 00:53:30,290 --> 00:53:28,140 when I run out of stuff to burn I headed 1189 00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:30,300 for the top of the tree and then then 1190 00:53:36,290 --> 00:53:33,720 I'd I'd uh it was pretty sparse tree I 1191 00:53:38,450 --> 00:53:36,300 could see down to the ground and I broke 1192 00:53:41,750 --> 00:53:38,460 off the top and threw it down and 1193 00:53:44,690 --> 00:53:41,760 anytime I throw down or or shake the 1194 00:53:46,430 --> 00:53:44,700 tree these humanoids would back up when 1195 00:53:48,829 --> 00:53:46,440 I was up in the top of that tree I 1196 00:53:51,049 --> 00:53:48,839 thought about just jumping off and 1197 00:53:52,730 --> 00:53:51,059 jumping down the canyon and just killing 1198 00:53:55,549 --> 00:53:52,740 myself but the only thing that kept me 1199 00:54:01,130 --> 00:53:55,559 going is I had the little girl my wife 1200 00:54:01,140 --> 00:54:08,690 foreign 1201 00:54:22,730 --> 00:54:19,510 [Music] 1202 00:54:26,150 --> 00:54:22,740 Irwin was a Nike missile technician at 1203 00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:26,160 Fort Bliss in El Paso Texas on February 1204 00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:30,480 28 1959 he was driving back from Nampa 1205 00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:33,839 Idaho where he'd been on leave at Cedar 1206 00:54:40,250 --> 00:54:36,960 City Utah he turned Southeast onto Route 1207 00:54:42,770 --> 00:54:40,260 14 about six miles from the turn off he 1208 00:54:44,750 --> 00:54:42,780 spotted a glowing object that seemed to 1209 00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:44,760 come to Earth in a field just off the 1210 00:54:50,030 --> 00:54:46,680 road thinking he had seen an airplane 1211 00:54:51,410 --> 00:54:50,040 crash or at least a forced Landing he 1212 00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:51,420 stopped to see if he could give 1213 00:54:56,569 --> 00:54:54,180 assistance he wrote a note and placed it 1214 00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:56,579 on the steering wheel of his car it read 1215 00:55:02,270 --> 00:54:59,400 quote have gone to investigate possible 1216 00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:02,280 plane crash please call Law Enforcement 1217 00:55:08,630 --> 00:55:06,480 Officers end quote then he wrote stop in 1218 00:55:11,270 --> 00:55:08,640 large letters on the side of his car 1219 00:55:13,250 --> 00:55:11,280 about 30 minutes later a fish and game 1220 00:55:16,250 --> 00:55:13,260 inspector happened to be driving past 1221 00:55:18,049 --> 00:55:16,260 and stopped at Irwin's car he saw the 1222 00:55:21,049 --> 00:55:18,059 note and took it to the Cedar City 1223 00:55:23,329 --> 00:55:21,059 Sheriff's Office where Sheriff Otto Fife 1224 00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:23,339 gathered a party of volunteers and 1225 00:55:28,430 --> 00:55:25,680 returned to the site when they searched 1226 00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,440 they found no trace of a plane crash but 1227 00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:30,240 they found private Gary Irwin 1228 00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:32,819 unconscious in a field by the side of 1229 00:55:38,750 --> 00:55:36,000 the road 90 minutes had passed since he 1230 00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:38,760 had first seen the glowing object Irwin 1231 00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:41,040 was taken to the hospital in Cedar City 1232 00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:43,680 where Dr Broadbent could find nothing 1233 00:55:48,530 --> 00:55:45,900 physically wrong with him Irwin was 1234 00:55:51,410 --> 00:55:48,540 merely asleep and could not be awakened 1235 00:55:54,530 --> 00:55:51,420 Dr Broadbent could find no explanation 1236 00:55:56,809 --> 00:55:54,540 for this so his diagnosis was hysteria 1237 00:55:59,210 --> 00:55:56,819 when private Irwin eventually awoke he 1238 00:56:01,970 --> 00:55:59,220 felt perfectly well but he was mystified 1239 00:56:04,309 --> 00:56:01,980 by the glowing object he had seen he was 1240 00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,319 also confused by the fact that his 1241 00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,720 jacket was missing the sheriff's search 1242 00:56:11,450 --> 00:56:09,240 party stated that he was not wearing it 1243 00:56:13,430 --> 00:56:11,460 when they found him Irwin was flown back 1244 00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:13,440 to Fort Bliss and placed under 1245 00:56:18,589 --> 00:56:16,319 observation at William Beaumont Army 1246 00:56:21,349 --> 00:56:18,599 hospital for several days after which he 1247 00:56:24,170 --> 00:56:21,359 was released as fit to return to duty 1248 00:56:27,109 --> 00:56:24,180 the episode was not over yet though some 1249 00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:27,119 days later Irwin fainted on base and a 1250 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,280 few days after that he fainted while in 1251 00:56:33,950 --> 00:56:31,920 the city of El Paso he was taken to 1252 00:56:36,470 --> 00:56:33,960 Southwest General Hospital where he was 1253 00:56:39,530 --> 00:56:36,480 found once again to be asleep and 1254 00:56:42,470 --> 00:56:39,540 unwakable about 24 hours later he awoke 1255 00:56:45,530 --> 00:56:42,480 asking quote were there any survivors he 1256 00:56:47,630 --> 00:56:45,540 behaved as if he had lost all memory of 1257 00:56:50,750 --> 00:56:47,640 the period between seeing the object on 1258 00:56:54,170 --> 00:56:50,760 February 28 in Utah and waking up on 1259 00:56:56,510 --> 00:56:54,180 March 16th in El Paso once again he was 1260 00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,520 taken to William Beaumont Army hospital 1261 00:57:02,450 --> 00:56:59,280 where he was placed under observation by 1262 00:57:04,370 --> 00:57:02,460 psychiatrists after one month extensive 1263 00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:04,380 testing could find nothing wrong with 1264 00:57:10,490 --> 00:57:08,040 him so he was released on April 17th the 1265 00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:10,500 next day Irwin was seized by a powerful 1266 00:57:16,010 --> 00:57:13,020 impulse that made him take a bus from El 1267 00:57:19,309 --> 00:57:16,020 Paso to Cedar City arriving on April 1268 00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:19,319 19th he then walked back to the field in 1269 00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:21,420 which the sheriff's party had found him 1270 00:57:26,809 --> 00:57:24,480 he found his jacket on a bush there was 1271 00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:26,819 a pencil stuck in one of its buttonholes 1272 00:57:31,609 --> 00:57:29,040 with a piece of paper while tightly 1273 00:57:33,710 --> 00:57:31,619 around it Irwin burned the paper and 1274 00:57:36,470 --> 00:57:33,720 then seemed to come out of some kind of 1275 00:57:38,930 --> 00:57:36,480 Trance he could not recall the path back 1276 00:57:40,970 --> 00:57:38,940 to the road or why he'd come there he 1277 00:57:43,309 --> 00:57:40,980 made his way back to Cedar City and 1278 00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:43,319 turned himself in to sheriff Otto Fife 1279 00:57:49,069 --> 00:57:45,720 who told Irwin about his first encounter 1280 00:57:51,349 --> 00:57:49,079 on the 28th of February once again Irwin 1281 00:57:54,410 --> 00:57:51,359 returned to Fort Bliss and was given 1282 00:57:56,809 --> 00:57:54,420 psychological examinations on July 10th 1283 00:57:59,329 --> 00:57:56,819 he again entered William Beaumont Army 1284 00:58:01,549 --> 00:57:59,339 hospital he was discharged again but on 1285 00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:01,559 August 1st he failed to report for Duty 1286 00:58:07,390 --> 00:58:04,319 and one month later he was listed as a 1287 00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:07,400 deserter after this private Gary Irwin 1288 00:58:13,730 --> 00:58:10,319 disappeared from the public View and his 1289 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:13,740 current if he still is alive whereabouts 1290 00:58:23,450 --> 00:58:16,090 are unknown 1291 00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:31,930 thank you 1292 00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:37,130 December 14 1994 Trumbull County Ohio 1293 00:58:43,130 --> 00:58:39,900 just after midnight a series of calls 1294 00:58:45,730 --> 00:58:43,140 was received by 9-1-1 operators these 1295 00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:45,740 reports all involved one thing 1296 00:58:52,069 --> 00:58:49,200 low-flying UFOs the majority of these 1297 00:58:54,410 --> 00:58:52,079 calls were heard by dispatcher Roy Anne 1298 00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:54,420 Rudolph everything from somebody who's 1299 00:58:58,370 --> 00:58:56,099 casually stating they saw something in 1300 00:59:01,510 --> 00:58:58,380 the air to somebody who was hysterical 1301 00:59:01,630 --> 00:59:01,520 and and thought that this was Armageddon 1302 00:59:04,490 --> 00:59:01,640 [Music] 1303 00:59:06,410 --> 00:59:04,500 [Applause] 1304 00:59:08,650 --> 00:59:06,420 boys are just like moving at a slow rate 1305 00:59:11,870 --> 00:59:08,660 of speed 1306 00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:11,880 but it was coming down we just kind of 1307 00:59:16,490 --> 00:59:14,760 took it for okay this is people being 1308 00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:16,500 hysterical over a weather balloon or 1309 00:59:20,990 --> 00:59:18,660 this is people being hysterical over a 1310 00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,000 plane or a helicopter I wonder could you 1311 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:23,280 have anyone call you about a strange 1312 00:59:28,849 --> 00:59:25,200 plane or airplane or something in the 1313 00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:28,859 air again I was coming downstairs I 1314 00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:30,420 don't know what it was it was a flying 1315 00:59:34,730 --> 00:59:32,880 saucer what does it look like man it was 1316 00:59:37,490 --> 00:59:34,740 like a uh almost like an iridescent 1317 00:59:40,130 --> 00:59:37,500 color it was like a bluish purple 1318 00:59:43,190 --> 00:59:40,140 but because of the extraordinary number 1319 00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,200 of calls Rudolph decided to notify the 1320 00:59:48,349 --> 00:59:45,839 police of Liberty Township 1321 00:59:50,329 --> 00:59:48,359 the first police unit contacted thought 1322 00:59:52,250 --> 00:59:50,339 that the reports were probably nothing 1323 00:59:54,049 --> 00:59:52,260 to worry about and that a plane was 1324 00:59:56,690 --> 00:59:54,059 probably flying low 1325 00:59:59,569 --> 00:59:56,700 Sergeant Toby malloro was the first 1326 01:00:01,130 --> 00:59:59,579 officer on the scene 1327 01:00:02,750 --> 01:00:01,140 took a few minutes we kind of laughed 1328 01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:02,760 about it I believed that I was going to 1329 01:00:07,130 --> 01:00:05,700 see if anything a plane was Landing or a 1330 01:00:14,329 --> 01:00:07,140 plane was low 1331 01:00:18,890 --> 01:00:16,549 and as he proceeded down to Samson drive 1332 01:00:20,690 --> 01:00:18,900 to check out the lights he was informed 1333 01:00:22,430 --> 01:00:20,700 by a man on the street that the lights 1334 01:00:25,250 --> 01:00:22,440 were moving south 1335 01:00:28,130 --> 01:00:25,260 as miloro continued southerly his 1336 01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,140 Cruiser went dead as he attempted to 1337 01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:31,200 restart his vehicle it was engulfed by a 1338 01:00:36,049 --> 01:00:33,660 bright white light from above 1339 01:00:38,510 --> 01:00:36,059 startled and frightened he exited his 1340 01:00:40,609 --> 01:00:38,520 vehicle and stood outside looking up at 1341 01:00:43,490 --> 01:00:40,619 this giant object 1342 01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:43,500 circular in shape and intensely bright 1343 01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,460 in the center after about 30 seconds the 1344 01:00:53,089 --> 01:00:49,920 giant object started to move away and 1345 01:00:55,190 --> 01:00:53,099 the thing that was very strange was 1346 01:00:58,010 --> 01:00:55,200 there was no sound 1347 01:01:00,609 --> 01:00:58,020 after the object moves out of sight his 1348 01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:00,619 vehicle began to function normally again 1349 01:01:07,370 --> 01:01:03,299 trying to understand what he just seen 1350 01:01:10,250 --> 01:01:07,380 he took off in pursuit of the UFO Melora 1351 01:01:12,770 --> 01:01:10,260 was unable to keep Pace with this object 1352 01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,780 he called dispatch informing them what 1353 01:01:16,490 --> 01:01:14,880 he'd seen and gave the objects direction 1354 01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:16,500 of flight 1355 01:01:21,470 --> 01:01:19,140 soon the information spread to active 1356 01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:21,480 law enforcement units all across the 1357 01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:23,460 area in reports of the object's 1358 01:01:28,130 --> 01:01:25,859 Direction were used to triangulate the 1359 01:01:31,030 --> 01:01:28,140 object 1360 01:01:36,289 --> 01:01:33,950 this isn't funny anymore because it's 1361 01:01:41,770 --> 01:01:36,299 getting to the point where I don't know 1362 01:01:46,190 --> 01:01:43,849 you could see it like up in the air 1363 01:01:49,630 --> 01:01:46,200 blowing and getting further away from me 1364 01:01:52,250 --> 01:01:49,640 people are serious they're very upset 1365 01:01:55,089 --> 01:01:52,260 I mean literally if you were underneath 1366 01:01:57,770 --> 01:01:55,099 it it would be like daylight 1367 01:02:01,370 --> 01:01:57,780 dispatcher Rudolph later stated that at 1368 01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:01,380 least 14 to 15 officers had seen the UFO 1369 01:02:05,930 --> 01:02:03,900 the reports of the object and its 1370 01:02:09,049 --> 01:02:05,940 movements were openly discussed among 1371 01:02:10,910 --> 01:02:09,059 the officers on the police radio police 1372 01:02:12,890 --> 01:02:10,920 dispatch with reports of the UFO 1373 01:02:15,950 --> 01:02:12,900 spreading to adjacent communities called 1374 01:02:18,289 --> 01:02:15,960 the local airport FAA control tower and 1375 01:02:21,049 --> 01:02:18,299 asked if they had anything unusual on 1376 01:02:26,450 --> 01:02:23,930 Francisco so we're reported some flying 1377 01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:26,460 object in our jurisdiction do you know 1378 01:02:29,289 --> 01:02:27,480 of anything that should be in our 1379 01:02:32,030 --> 01:02:29,299 airspace this time close to the ground 1380 01:02:34,329 --> 01:02:32,040 uh right this is not a prince Uncle I 1381 01:02:37,569 --> 01:02:34,339 swear you can call me back to verify 1382 01:02:42,109 --> 01:02:39,950 Youngstown and there is nothing out 1383 01:02:43,730 --> 01:02:42,119 there Lieutenant James Baker of the 1384 01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:43,740 Brookfield Township Police Department 1385 01:02:49,910 --> 01:02:46,799 was one of the officers monitoring the 1386 01:02:52,849 --> 01:02:49,920 Fantastic calls and he decided to have a 1387 01:02:55,849 --> 01:02:52,859 look for himself he climbed up into an 1388 01:02:57,890 --> 01:02:55,859 abandoned radar Tower in the area to get 1389 01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:57,900 a better look at this object 1390 01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:00,180 as he reached the top of the tower he 1391 01:03:05,450 --> 01:03:03,599 was shocked at what he saw not one but 1392 01:03:07,910 --> 01:03:05,460 three UFOs 1393 01:03:10,549 --> 01:03:07,920 all three objects were in a triangular 1394 01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:10,559 pattern with the middle object slightly 1395 01:03:15,470 --> 01:03:13,260 higher than the two on the side 1396 01:03:18,829 --> 01:03:15,480 also Baker stated that the object 1397 01:03:20,510 --> 01:03:18,839 changed colors in unison red yellow blue 1398 01:03:22,670 --> 01:03:20,520 and green 1399 01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:22,680 he reported his observations to the 1400 01:03:34,190 --> 01:03:24,960 other patrolmen on duty I got him right 1401 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:40,930 [Applause] 1402 01:03:44,530 --> 01:03:42,069 [Music] 1403 01:03:49,609 --> 01:03:44,540 this is weird 1404 01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:52,609 uh please be a plane oh please 1405 01:03:57,589 --> 01:03:54,960 astronomers have tried to explain away 1406 01:03:59,390 --> 01:03:57,599 the sightings as simple stars that 1407 01:04:02,080 --> 01:03:59,400 appeared to be low in the sky and 1408 01:04:04,010 --> 01:04:02,090 appeared to be changing colors 1409 01:04:05,930 --> 01:04:04,020 [Music] 1410 01:04:08,990 --> 01:04:05,940 peace officer who saw the very intense 1411 01:04:12,109 --> 01:04:09,000 bright light very likely saw a fireball 1412 01:04:14,089 --> 01:04:12,119 a fireball is a very very bright meteor 1413 01:04:17,270 --> 01:04:14,099 that can be many times brighter than the 1414 01:04:19,010 --> 01:04:17,280 full moon I think the car stalling was 1415 01:04:22,069 --> 01:04:19,020 just a coincidence had nothing to do 1416 01:04:23,750 --> 01:04:22,079 with this whatsoever it obviously it had 1417 01:04:25,309 --> 01:04:23,760 to be involved in my Crews were shutting 1418 01:04:27,849 --> 01:04:25,319 down there was no problem with my car 1419 01:04:30,170 --> 01:04:27,859 because it started back up 1420 01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:30,180 I was told that it may have been the 1421 01:04:33,470 --> 01:04:32,099 planet Mercury it was not the planet 1422 01:04:35,390 --> 01:04:33,480 Mercury 1423 01:04:37,190 --> 01:04:35,400 some have theorized that the objects 1424 01:04:39,650 --> 01:04:37,200 seen by the policemen of Trumbull County 1425 01:04:42,049 --> 01:04:39,660 was a top secret craft from the 1426 01:04:45,470 --> 01:04:42,059 Youngstown Air Reserve Base 1427 01:04:48,109 --> 01:04:45,480 however Captain John kitak from the base 1428 01:04:50,809 --> 01:04:48,119 stated that there were no planes or 1429 01:04:54,109 --> 01:04:50,819 experimental craft flying that night 1430 01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:54,119 here I can't you know speak for other 1431 01:04:57,470 --> 01:04:56,160 people who say they may or may not have 1432 01:05:00,829 --> 01:04:57,480 seen something 1433 01:05:02,510 --> 01:05:00,839 what I can talk from with authority is 1434 01:05:04,069 --> 01:05:02,520 what happened here at the base and what 1435 01:05:06,410 --> 01:05:04,079 our involvement was and there was 1436 01:05:08,930 --> 01:05:06,420 apparently none the policemen of Ohio 1437 01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:08,940 have spoken often about what they saw on 1438 01:05:14,510 --> 01:05:11,700 December 14 1994. 1439 01:05:17,390 --> 01:05:14,520 police cars that inexplicably stalled 1440 01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:17,400 light beams engulfing the vehicles one 1441 01:05:23,089 --> 01:05:19,440 or more structured craft of a nature 1442 01:05:25,730 --> 01:05:23,099 never seen before or since 1443 01:05:29,510 --> 01:05:25,740 the 1994 sightings of Trumbull County 1444 01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:29,520 have never been adequately explained and 1445 01:05:34,250 --> 01:05:31,799 as usual leave us with more questions 1446 01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:34,260 than answers I'm not saying what I 1447 01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:36,240 thought was it was a spaceship from 1448 01:05:42,410 --> 01:05:39,420 outer space okay what I'm saying is I 1449 01:05:44,930 --> 01:05:42,420 saw an object that was not normal for 1450 01:05:47,329 --> 01:05:44,940 this area it gave off an intense light 1451 01:05:50,569 --> 01:05:47,339 it shut my cruiser off including my 1452 01:05:52,849 --> 01:05:50,579 radio I lost contact with the 911 Center 1453 01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:52,859 and it didn't make any noise it's 1454 01:05:57,410 --> 01:05:54,240 something that I've never seen before 1455 01:05:59,210 --> 01:05:57,420 I've never encountered before and I 1456 01:06:02,150 --> 01:05:59,220 haven't encountered it since 1457 01:06:03,829 --> 01:06:02,160 I do believe that they saw something I 1458 01:06:05,450 --> 01:06:03,839 don't believe that it was a star there 1459 01:06:07,789 --> 01:06:05,460 was something there what I walked away 1460 01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:07,799 from that night was a feeling that this 1461 01:06:11,390 --> 01:06:09,839 was a lot bigger than just a couple 1462 01:06:14,750 --> 01:06:11,400 people saying they saw a light in the 1463 01:06:16,490 --> 01:06:14,760 sky and it made us think maybe a small 1464 01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:16,500 place like Trumbull County could have 1465 01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:24,589 Friday March 4th 1988 all four members 1466 01:06:29,750 --> 01:06:26,880 of the baker family were driving home 1467 01:06:33,410 --> 01:06:29,760 following their usual Friday night meal 1468 01:06:35,630 --> 01:06:33,420 it was a little after 8 30 p.m Henry the 1469 01:06:37,730 --> 01:06:35,640 father was driving and the two children 1470 01:06:39,950 --> 01:06:37,740 were in the back seat the heavily 1471 01:06:42,589 --> 01:06:39,960 pregnant Sheila the mother looked out 1472 01:06:43,970 --> 01:06:42,599 the passenger window at the Frozen Lake 1473 01:06:47,210 --> 01:06:43,980 Erie 1474 01:06:50,569 --> 01:06:47,220 the ice almost shined in the Moonlight 1475 01:06:53,329 --> 01:06:50,579 then she saw something strangely lit 1476 01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:53,339 looking as if it was rocking on the 1477 01:06:57,529 --> 01:06:55,380 surface of the lake 1478 01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:57,539 she nudged her husband who took his 1479 01:07:02,990 --> 01:06:59,760 attention away from the road 1480 01:07:04,789 --> 01:07:03,000 he could see it also that Sheila's 1481 01:07:07,789 --> 01:07:04,799 insistence he would turn the car's 1482 01:07:09,770 --> 01:07:07,799 direction towards the Waterfront once 1483 01:07:11,630 --> 01:07:09,780 there they instructed their sons to 1484 01:07:14,270 --> 01:07:11,640 remain in the vehicle 1485 01:07:16,789 --> 01:07:14,280 they stepped out into the cold night and 1486 01:07:18,349 --> 01:07:16,799 began to cautiously make their way to 1487 01:07:20,990 --> 01:07:18,359 the water's edge 1488 01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:21,000 the lights were still there 1489 01:07:25,670 --> 01:07:23,400 what Sheila first noticed though were 1490 01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:25,680 sounds that appeared to be the ice of 1491 01:07:30,650 --> 01:07:28,140 the frozen lake cracking 1492 01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:30,660 she would liken them to collapse of 1493 01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:33,359 Thunder as they got as near as they 1494 01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:35,760 could without stepping on the ice they 1495 01:07:40,849 --> 01:07:38,400 could clearly make out a football shaped 1496 01:07:43,789 --> 01:07:40,859 object with bright white lights at 1497 01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:43,799 either end the object itself appeared to 1498 01:07:49,190 --> 01:07:46,680 be of a gunmetal gray color and was 1499 01:07:52,190 --> 01:07:49,200 hovering overhead as opposed to being on 1500 01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:52,200 the surface despite the obvious movement 1501 01:07:56,270 --> 01:07:54,720 the strange craft made no noise 1502 01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:56,280 whatsoever 1503 01:08:00,950 --> 01:07:59,280 all Sheila could hear were the sounds of 1504 01:08:03,230 --> 01:08:00,960 cracking ice 1505 01:08:05,930 --> 01:08:03,240 suddenly as if it had become aware of 1506 01:08:09,049 --> 01:08:05,940 their presence the objects swung towards 1507 01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:09,059 them heading in their Direction panicked 1508 01:08:13,370 --> 01:08:11,280 and frightened the couple turned and ran 1509 01:08:15,410 --> 01:08:13,380 back to their car 1510 01:08:19,070 --> 01:08:15,420 Henry would drive the remainder of the 1511 01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:19,080 journey completely uneasy once the 1512 01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:21,359 Bakers arrived at their home and settled 1513 01:08:25,249 --> 01:08:23,520 their children to bed Sheila would 1514 01:08:28,130 --> 01:08:25,259 contact the police to report the 1515 01:08:30,110 --> 01:08:28,140 sighting the police would tell her that 1516 01:08:32,930 --> 01:08:30,120 she would have to make the report to the 1517 01:08:34,970 --> 01:08:32,940 Coast Guard she did and despite their 1518 01:08:37,309 --> 01:08:34,980 initial refusal to deal with the case 1519 01:08:39,970 --> 01:08:37,319 they eventually agreed to pick them up 1520 01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:39,980 and take them back to the Waterfront 1521 01:08:44,749 --> 01:08:42,960 meanwhile The Bakers could clearly see 1522 01:08:46,910 --> 01:08:44,759 the object hovering over the lake from 1523 01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:46,920 the window of their house 1524 01:08:52,910 --> 01:08:49,679 as they watched six independent 1525 01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:52,920 triangular objects suddenly emerged from 1526 01:08:58,309 --> 01:08:55,920 the larger craft they would move around 1527 01:09:02,269 --> 01:08:58,319 the main object in a darting motion 1528 01:09:04,430 --> 01:09:02,279 before halting to a complete stop these 1529 01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:04,440 triangular objects would then move in 1530 01:09:09,229 --> 01:09:06,960 the direction of the peri-nuclear power 1531 01:09:11,150 --> 01:09:09,239 plant nearby 1532 01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:11,160 The Bakers would ask their neighbor to 1533 01:09:14,570 --> 01:09:12,960 watch their children and when the Coast 1534 01:09:16,370 --> 01:09:14,580 Guard arrived they would accompanied 1535 01:09:18,950 --> 01:09:16,380 them back to the lake 1536 01:09:21,950 --> 01:09:18,960 according to the officers James power 1537 01:09:24,590 --> 01:09:21,960 and John knob several other reports 1538 01:09:26,930 --> 01:09:24,600 including from their own employees had 1539 01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:26,940 come in regarding the object 1540 01:09:31,910 --> 01:09:29,160 as the Coast Guard's vehicle pulled up 1541 01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:31,920 at the waterfront the smaller triangular 1542 01:09:36,289 --> 01:09:34,620 objects were once again circling the 1543 01:09:38,209 --> 01:09:36,299 main craft 1544 01:09:41,809 --> 01:09:38,219 as soon as the coast guards open their 1545 01:09:43,729 --> 01:09:41,819 car doors the sound of rumbling ice met 1546 01:09:46,430 --> 01:09:43,739 everyone's ears 1547 01:09:48,890 --> 01:09:46,440 this noise was constant as if the 1548 01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:48,900 object's purpose was to crack the ice 1549 01:09:55,010 --> 01:09:52,440 and gain access to the water below 1550 01:09:58,370 --> 01:09:55,020 the coast guards report would state that 1551 01:10:00,709 --> 01:09:58,380 the ice was crackling and moving 1552 01:10:03,530 --> 01:10:00,719 whenever the object came closer to the 1553 01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:03,540 surface the cracking sounds became more 1554 01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:04,800 intense 1555 01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:06,960 the coast guards would radio back to 1556 01:10:12,050 --> 01:10:08,880 their control base stating that the 1557 01:10:14,330 --> 01:10:12,060 quote objects appear to be landing on 1558 01:10:16,669 --> 01:10:14,340 the lake the coast guards would continue 1559 01:10:18,110 --> 01:10:16,679 to advise the control room of the 1560 01:10:20,570 --> 01:10:18,120 situation 1561 01:10:23,090 --> 01:10:20,580 as the Triangular craft became more 1562 01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:23,100 active once more they would report that 1563 01:10:27,890 --> 01:10:25,440 the other objects were moving all around 1564 01:10:28,910 --> 01:10:27,900 and they were going at high rates of 1565 01:10:31,370 --> 01:10:28,920 speed 1566 01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:31,380 as Sheila and Henry along with the two 1567 01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,020 coast guards continued to watch the 1568 01:10:39,169 --> 01:10:36,480 fascinating display they noticed one of 1569 01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:39,179 the triangles suddenly turn in their 1570 01:10:44,390 --> 01:10:42,239 Direction it was heading straight for 1571 01:10:46,729 --> 01:10:44,400 the Coast Guard's vehicle 1572 01:10:49,490 --> 01:10:46,739 right before what seemed to be an 1573 01:10:52,729 --> 01:10:49,500 inevitable impact the object veered 1574 01:10:55,370 --> 01:10:52,739 upwards in a blur of light 1575 01:10:58,430 --> 01:10:55,380 it then returned to the main large craft 1576 01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:58,440 as did all the other smaller triangular 1577 01:11:02,870 --> 01:11:00,000 objects 1578 01:11:05,689 --> 01:11:02,880 all the while the sound of ice cracking 1579 01:11:08,030 --> 01:11:05,699 continued it seemed that the previously 1580 01:11:10,910 --> 01:11:08,040 bright white lights of the craft were 1581 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:10,920 now beginning to flash and glow in a 1582 01:11:17,390 --> 01:11:14,880 display of red blue orange and green 1583 01:11:20,090 --> 01:11:17,400 the craft itself appeared to be 1584 01:11:22,189 --> 01:11:20,100 descending the lights went out for a 1585 01:11:25,130 --> 01:11:22,199 second and then returned 1586 01:11:28,149 --> 01:11:25,140 and then without warning the lights and 1587 01:11:31,130 --> 01:11:28,159 the rumbling noise were gone completely 1588 01:11:34,370 --> 01:11:31,140 the Witnesses were not clear if the 1589 01:11:37,490 --> 01:11:34,380 craft had sped away or if the lights had 1590 01:11:39,290 --> 01:11:37,500 simply gone out perhaps it was still 1591 01:11:42,189 --> 01:11:39,300 hovering over the ice 1592 01:11:44,930 --> 01:11:42,199 only now they couldn't see it 1593 01:11:48,110 --> 01:11:44,940 Sheila though would voice her suspicion 1594 01:11:51,110 --> 01:11:48,120 for reasons she doesn't know that this 1595 01:11:53,890 --> 01:11:51,120 object plunged directly below the ice 1596 01:11:56,630 --> 01:11:53,900 and into the Frozen Waters 1597 01:11:58,669 --> 01:11:56,640 although several of the small triangular 1598 01:12:00,530 --> 01:11:58,679 objects were seen flying directly 1599 01:12:04,729 --> 01:12:00,540 overhead a little later that evening 1600 01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:04,739 this large craft didn't reappear one of 1601 01:12:09,169 --> 01:12:06,840 the coast guards would report that the 1602 01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:09,179 Triangular crafts behaved as though they 1603 01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:11,880 were scouting the area 1604 01:12:17,630 --> 01:12:14,340 none of the coast guards could identify 1605 01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:17,640 any of the objects they had witnessed in 1606 01:12:25,070 --> 01:12:20,760 the Lake Erie close encounter 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